From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ken Raeburn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Watchpoints for emacs lisp. Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:30:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <28512483.post@talk.nabble.com> <28523705.post@talk.nabble.com> <28567671.post@talk.nabble.com> <28574547.post@talk.nabble.com> <7FA18246-9874-4EC2-AAEB-55B693541C20@mit.edu> <28577522.post@talk.nabble.com> <28585093.post@talk.nabble.com> <28585789.post@talk.nabble.com> <28586371.post@talk.nabble.com> <28587094.post@talk.nabble.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274244290 23694 80.91.229.12 (19 May 2010 04:44:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 04:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adrian Robert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 19 06:44:48 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OEb9C-0000bg-EH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:44:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47502 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OEb9B-000513-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 00:44:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44072 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OEb90-0004ws-0B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 00:44:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OEavq-0004yj-Vi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 00:31:00 -0400 Original-Received: from splat.raeburn.org ([69.25.196.39]:49128 helo=raeburn.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OEavj-0004yA-97 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 00:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: from squish.raeburn.org (squish.raeburn.org [10.0.0.172]) by raeburn.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o4J4UlFQ020859; Wed, 19 May 2010 00:30:47 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124922 Archived-At: On May 18, 2010, at 04:22, Adrian Robert wrote: > Chad Brown gmail.com> writes: >=20 >> How much history? These are the last few lines of `bzr log': >>=20 >> revno: 1 >> committer: Jim Blandy redhat.com> >> timestamp: Thu 1985-04-18 00:48:29 +0000 >> message: >> entered into RCS >=20 > Hmm, interesting, I didn't realize Redhat was around in 1985! >=20 > (In other words, why is revision of the logs taking place and can it = be stopped?) I assume it's probably something like mapping the FSF account "jimb" = consistently to the most recent email id he's using in the logs as of = the (re-)conversion date, since the CVS logs don't have the email info. = There are ChangeLog files which have email addresses, but since they're = not a standard part of every software project, and they're not always = updated as part of the same CVS commit (and certainly weren't updated in = the same instant with RCS), it wouldn't surprise me if the conversion = tool didn't try to use them for figuring out email addresses. And = really, it would be much more of a manual process, since the email = address and FSF account name don't necessarily have some obvious and = easy-to-program correspondence. Even if someone did go back and rewrite the old commits with the old = email addresses people were using at the time, I don't know about bzr, = but git would see it as a completely rewritten history, resulting in new = commit ids, etc. I've wasted enough time dealing with VCS issues with = Emacs, and still haven't quite untangled from the bzr switch; personally = I'd rather this just not get "fixed". Ken=