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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323223 Archived-At: > > Anyway, it does indeed mark out writing as coming from a non-native > > user of English. You see it relatively commonly in software contexts, > > probably because lots of programmers are not native English speakers. >=20 > In technical texts these uses of "allows" omit "one" or "you", so the > text really says "SOMETHING allows _you_ to do whatever", but omits > "you". Changing this mechanically to "allows doing" in many cases > makes the text much harder to read, a mouthful, really. Even better is to change it to "lets you do whatever". Or "If SOMETHING then you can do whatever", which makes the _user_ the actor of the active voice.