From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>, "Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: "emacs-devel-proposal@drmail.in" <emacs-devel-proposal@drmail.in>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: A new filter-based customization interface
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:23:41 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DS7PR10MB523211FF90D2801CB66B7552F3082@DS7PR10MB5232.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o70ucxt5.fsf@>
(Caveat: I'm not following this thread.)
> As stated item i.e. customization options don't contain context from
> where .i.e which group they are from. Just compare the mockup posted by
> the op and the output of customizes search function.
Not sure what you mean.
A `customize-option' buffer does have, as its
last line, a list of its custom `Groups:', and
the group names are links to `customize-group'.
OTOT, it's true that `C-h v' for an option
doesn't say which custom groups the option
belongs to. Perhaps that info should be
provided there.
> Customs search doesn't use tags which is what I wated to point out.
True. And Emacs itself doesn't provide tags as
a _general_ feature, AFAIK. IIUC, you can use
tags with Org and with Gnus, but those tags are
Org- and Gnus-specific. (I don't use Gnus, and
I don't use Org much, so I can't speak with any
authority about their tags.)
The most generally usable tags, AFAIK, are the
bookmark tags you can create with Bookmark+.
Very general and flexible. Since you can, in
effect, bookmark pretty much anything, you can
pretty much tag anything.
You can of course search for things using their
tags. In particular, you can search for complex
combinations of tags (Boolean combinations of
tag-name or tag-value matches for patterns,
including regexps, etc.)
But yeah, you need to bookmark something to tag
it, and you use bookmark commands etc. to make
use of the tags. So this too is not a completely
generally tag facility.
Bookmark tags define bookmark sets. A bookmark
can have any number of tags, and multiple bookmarks
can have the same tag. You can sort, show/hide,
or mark bookmarks based on their tags.
Bookmark tags can be more than just names. They
can be full-fledged user-defined attributes, with
EmacsLisp objects as their values.
It would be possible to bookmark, and thus tag,
*Customize* buffers or *Help* buffers for user
options.
___
If interested, see here:
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BookmarkPlus#BookmarkTags
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BookmarkPlus#BookmarkTagSets
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BookmarkPlus#TaggingFiles
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BookmarkPlus#BookmarkFilesForBookmarkswithSpecificTags
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BookmarkPlus#TagCommandsAndKeys
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BookmarkPlus#TagsAsAttributes
>
> > > It does not help either that Emacs is not responding while
> searching.
> >
> > Could yoi explain more concretely what operation you mean here?
> > What is the command for searching which fails to respond?
> >
> > If you use the same example, and say (as in the Emacs manua) exectly
> > what you type to do the sort of search that is nonresponsive,
> > it will be completely clear.
>
> Emacs does not respond to user input while searching.
> So for example the user opens custom, enters a word and presses search.
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-09 3:37 A new filter-based customization interface Moakt Temporary Email
2024-12-10 19:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-12 4:48 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-24 4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-24 21:10 ` Björn Bidar
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2024-12-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29 15:29 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <87o70ucxt5.fsf@>
2024-12-29 18:23 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2024-12-29 23:39 ` [External] : " Björn Bidar
2024-12-31 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2025-01-01 20:00 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29 20:02 ` Björn Bidar
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2024-12-31 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
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