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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: obsolete comment in tool-bar.el
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:53:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DNEMKBNJBGPAOPIJOOICMEHICKAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Dqwpd-0006pY-7q@fencepost.gnu.org>

        (defvar rogue-var) ;; to silence the compiler for the next line.
        (unless (default-boundp rogue-var) (setq rogue-var nil))
        (defcustom rogue-var ...
        ...
          :initialize 'custom-initialize-set
        ...)

    Suppose we implement a keyword in defcustom that causes it to generate
    all that.  That will look nice in the source code, but at execution
    time it will be equivalent to the above.

    I think that would be clearly better than all three of the above
    solutions.

Sounds great to me.

Or what about just reusing keyword :initialize, perhaps redefining its
behavior to recognize this special case? After all, this is about
initializing the value. The case could be distinguished by supplying
:initialize with an argument `custom-initialize-set-runtime' (or some better
name).

Ignore that suggestion if it makes little sense - I'm no pro on defcustom.

Anyway, I like the idea of implementing Luc's "ugly" code via a defcustom
keyword. Perhaps someone will point out problems with it, but I can't think
of any offhand.

Question: How will users see/detect/understand this behavior? What will they
see in "Show initial Lisp expression"? I assume the keyword behavior would
be documented, but I'm wondering what users will see in Customize.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-08 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-07 12:40 obsolete comment in tool-bar.el Mathias Dahl
2005-07-07 19:15 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-08  6:40   ` Mathias Dahl
2005-07-08 15:29     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-08 17:40   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-08 18:53     ` Drew Adams [this message]
2005-07-09  1:53       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-09  4:20       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-09  2:35     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-10  5:19       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-11  3:21         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-11 16:53           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-11 17:56             ` David Kastrup
2005-07-11 20:28               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-12  3:20               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-13  3:02                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-13 16:52                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-14  2:08                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-14  8:14                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-07-14 16:50                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-14 18:30                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-15  4:35                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-15 13:53                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-15 20:44                               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-15 22:05                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-15 22:46                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-16  1:47                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-16  2:04                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-19  2:59                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-19 14:41                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-20  4:05                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-21  5:40                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-20  8:34                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
     [not found]                       ` <E1Dt8bd-0001fH-Eu@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-07-14 22:05                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-15  3:24                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-15 18:10                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-16  2:32                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-13  3:20                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-09  3:57     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-09  7:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-09 13:57         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-12  4:13           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-07-12 12:20             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-07-12 18:25               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-12 23:58                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-13 16:52                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-12 20:19               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-13  1:53               ` Luc Teirlinck

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