From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: isearch transient msgs (e.g. case insensitive) - users to be ableto adjust the sit-for time Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 10:45:16 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096825582 31403 80.91.229.6 (3 Oct 2004 17:46:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 17:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 03 19:46:08 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CEAQx-0004DL-00 for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:46:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CEAXW-0002xC-1X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:52:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CEAXO-0002x7-OU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:52:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CEAXO-0002wv-CD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:52:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CEAXO-0002ws-9Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:52:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.231] (helo=agminet04.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CEAQI-0006hi-9G; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:45:26 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (rgmgw3.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.12]) by agminet04.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i93HjO6Z023677; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 10:45:24 -0700 Original-Received: from rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i93HjOst027085; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 11:45:24 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-65-21.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.65.21]) by rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id i93HjNdv027078; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 11:45:24 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27843 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27843 emacs -q C-s M-c See thread below. The solution is probably to use a user option for the sit-for time, instead of hardcoding it. There is some disagreement about which user option to use. From: Miles Bader [mailto:miles@gnu.org] On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 11:19:09PM +0300, Juri Linkov wrote: > Actually, there are only two such places: > `isearch-toggle-case-fold' and `isearch-complete'. I think that > `minibuffer-message-timeout' is an appropriate user option for them: No, `minibuffer-message-timeout' means something different -- it's the timeout for messages which _overwrite_ the minibuffer, which are quite different than messages that are appended to it (namely that overriting the minibuffer in the first place is a completely sucky UI, and a user may want to make its duration very short, but keep appended messages for a long time). -----Original Message----- From: Richard Stallman [mailto:rms@gnu.org] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 7:34 AM To: Drew Adams Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: isearch transient msgs (e.g. case insensitive) - users to be ableto adjust the sit-for time Any chance users could be able to adjust (via an option) the sit-for time for the transient display of isearch messages like "case insensitive"? In Emacs 20, such messages persisted slightly longer - long enough to see them Can you state precisely how to produce one of these messages?