From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Todays exercise of sanity (or does "see" really match "not"?) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 17:19:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87hdj4vppf.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1123633956 29806 80.91.229.2 (10 Aug 2005 00:32:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 10 02:32:34 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E2eVU-0003Au-Rd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 02:31:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E2eYa-0005ym-1y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:34:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E2eVR-0004vN-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:31:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E2eV9-0004lS-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:31:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E2eV8-0004jq-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:31:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.87.122.30] (helo=rgminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1E2eXp-00006i-RE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id j7A0KFpf004359 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:20:15 -0600 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.49]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id j7A0KEZj004344 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:20:14 -0600 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j7A0Jb3v027547 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:19:37 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-66-40.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.66.40]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id j7A0JaUL027540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:19:37 -0600 Original-To: "Emacs-Devel" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <87hdj4vppf.fsf@jurta.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:41829 Just a reminder, I guess, with another example of why this should eventually be fixed. I'm coming back to this thread from 2005/03/21. I think we all agreed to worry about this later, and that 1) programs should somehow be able to search for and see metadata (such as Note: and Menu: tags), but that 2) users searching Info should not find such tags (they can always find them using the appropriate Info commands, such as Info-next-reference). I was just trying to find information on menus in the Elisp manual, and I was reminded about how important #2 is above. The information on menus is in several different places in the manual. It is impractical to search for "menu", however, because you hit all of the Menu: tags. It would really be helpful to have this fixed somehow, after the release.