From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: RE: 22.1.50; Augmenting Emacs Keybindings To Match Included Packages? Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:03:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87wsvdsdpw.fsf@debby.local.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188486350 16923 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2007 15:05:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:05:50 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 30 17:05:49 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IQlaM-0004iu-Go for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:05:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQlaL-00026g-V1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:05:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IQlaH-000243-2p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IQlaF-00022v-H4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:05:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQlaF-00022n-Dg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:05:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IQlaF-0003gc-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:05:23 -0400 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IQla6-0002iX-0Q for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:05:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IQlaB-0003fq-3N for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:05:22 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IQlaA-0003fU-O6 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l7UF5AR7011906 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:05:11 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l7TDwodV013189 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:05:09 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-4op11-4op12-west-130-35-178-203.us.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3170948921188486236; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:03:56 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <87wsvdsdpw.fsf@debby.local.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77419 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:19665 Archived-At: > >> Also, I've long bound M-r to replace-string > > The default binding for M-r (move-to-window-line) is also quite > helpful The usefulness of a key sequence is one consideration. Other possible considerations include the difficulty of effecting it (on common keyboards) and whether or not you can auto-repeat it by holding it pressed. It seems a shame to spend (waste) a (typically) repeatable key such as `M-r' on a command such as `move-to-window-line' or `replace-string' that cannot take advantage of holding the key (chord) down to repeat the command. Not a big deal, admittedly, but something else to perhaps keep in mind. Short key sequences are relatively scarce. In general, it's better to use a key that cannot repeat, such as `C-x ' for a command that typically will not be repeated. There are exceptions, of course, including quick keys that you want to be able to use often.