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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: customize-apropos
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:57:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DNEMKBNJBGPAOPIJOOICKEAMDAAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200512100347.jBA3lr917144@raven.dms.auburn.edu>

    Variables should not be included in the customize-apropos output
    just because their docstring starts with a `*'.  If a variable
    should appear in a customization buffer, one should define it
    with defcustom.

    The patch below fixes these two problems.  If people absolutely want
    to list non-defcustomed variables in the Custom buffer, they still can
    after my patch, by giving customize-apropos a numeric argument.

Your doc-string changes correctly reflect the current prefix-arg behavior -
the arg distinguishes customizable variables from other variables. However,
wouldn't it also be useful to be able to distinguish all user variables
(options) - whether customizable or not - from internal variables?

We have 3 sets of vars:

1. customizable user options - defined with defcustom.

2. non-customizable user options - defined with defvar, with * as first
doc-string char.

3. internal variables - defined with defvar, with no * starting doc string

The prefix arg currently distinguishes #1 from (#2 union #3). That can be
useful, but it can also be useful to distinguish variables designed to be
changed by users from those intended to be used internally: (#1 union #2) vs
#3.

I agree that customize-* commands should show customize stuff by default and
extra stuff, if at all, via prefix arg. But I think that a user will often
be more interested in seeing all user options than all variables, so some
means of showing #1 union #2 would be good to have.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-11 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-10  3:47 customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-10  3:51 ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-10 23:04 ` customize-apropos Kim F. Storm
2005-12-10 23:07   ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-11 16:49     ` customize-apropos Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-11  5:03 ` customize-apropos Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-11 17:57 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2005-12-12  5:03   ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-12  5:40     ` customize-apropos Drew Adams
2005-12-12 23:56       ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-13  0:22         ` customize-apropos Drew Adams
2005-12-13  0:45           ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-13  3:55             ` customize-apropos Drew Adams
2005-12-13  1:01           ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-13  1:29           ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-13 23:33         ` customize-apropos Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-14  1:14           ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-14  1:25             ` customize-apropos Drew Adams
2005-12-14  2:13               ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-14  3:20                 ` customize-apropos Drew Adams
2005-12-14  3:40                   ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-14  3:52                     ` customize-apropos Drew Adams
2005-12-14  5:58                       ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-14 15:07                         ` customize-apropos Drew Adams
2005-12-15  5:33                           ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-15 16:33                             ` customize-apropos Drew Adams
2005-12-16  5:09                               ` customize-apropos Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-14  3:45                   ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-14  3:54                     ` customize-apropos Drew Adams
2005-12-14 20:02             ` customize-apropos Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-15  4:18               ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-16  1:51                 ` customize-apropos Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-16  3:47                   ` customize-apropos Luc Teirlinck

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