From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: add generic toggle, turn on, and turn off commands to Options menu Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:42:26 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145832173 3359 80.91.229.2 (23 Apr 2006 22:42:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 24 00:42:52 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXnI3-0006Ht-H4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:42:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXnI3-0004bj-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:42:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FXnHs-0004be-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:42:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FXnHp-0004bS-S6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:42:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXnHp-0004bP-KO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:42:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FXnJv-00007q-Op for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:44:48 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.49]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k3NMgZ3e013964 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:42:35 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw2-141-144-72-228.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.72.228]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id k3NMgXKg020317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:42:34 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53291 Archived-At: I don't think it is desirable to create menu items for a lot more options unless we do it with something like tabs so as to make it easier to manage them all. I wonder if you misunderstood what I wrote or I misunderstand what you wrote. My proposal (for after the release) was to add a _generic_ toggle menu item, usable for any binary option. That would _reduce_ the number of toggle items needed in the menu. At the limit, this would be the _only_ toggle menu item needed, but it can be useful to include a few commonly used toggle commands as menu items in their own right. (I would give the user control over which other toggle items to include, as I mentioned.) Maybe we could have a tabs-based customization buffer that is modeled more closely after the configuration facilities of other programs. That is something altogether different (orthogonal). A menu is for quick toggling. Making the customization buffer tabs-based doesn't speak to the same need, AFAICT.