From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: FW: Emacs non-ascii characters Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:24:50 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132612716 25409 80.91.229.2 (21 Nov 2005 22:38:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jorussel@cisco.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 21 23:38:35 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EeKHM-0007OP-Fu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:36:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EeKHL-0004EF-G2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:36:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EeK5p-0006zg-Ti for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:24:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EeK5n-0006u1-7r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:24:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EeK5n-0006t4-0u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:24:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1EeK5m-0003gs-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:24:55 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.50]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jALMcWho010098; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:38:32 -0600 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jALMOpRq000888; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:24:51 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id jALMOpOa000877 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:24:51 -0700 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46412 Archived-At: > This makes me wonder if `C-\' isn't a bad binding for such a command. Should > toggling the input method be on a key binding that is easy to hit by > mistake? ``Easy to hit by mistake''? IMHO, no key combination is so _hard_ to hit by mistake as C-\. On some non-US keyboards it's almost impossible to hit by mistake, since it requires to use the AltGr key. I do use input methods a lot, and yet I have never hit that key combo by mistake until now. Well, I won't argue about it much - it's not a problem I've run into; I'm just the messenger. WRT the difficulty of accidentally hitting `C-\' - I have only standard, US PC keyboards, probably the most common keyboards there are currently. `C-\' is very easy to hit by mistake: `\' is just above the Enter key and just to the right of `]'. There is nothing hard about hitting `\', and one could easily hit `C-\' when trying to hit `C-]' (abort-recursive-edit). `C-\' could also be hit easily by mistake using Shift instead of Control: `|' is the shifted version of `\' and `}' is the shifted version of `]'.