From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Time to install the new icons Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:28:57 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132435959 29637 80.91.229.2 (19 Nov 2005 21:32:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 19 22:32:38 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EdaJY-0006Na-68 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:32:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EdaJX-0004bC-Kg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:32:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EdaGe-0002ZV-M6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:29:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EdaGc-0002Xw-6t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:29:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EdaGc-0002Xq-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [148.87.122.30] (helo=rgminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1EdaGb-0007BR-Uc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.50]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id jAJLSx6Q017360 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:28:59 -0700 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jAJLSxnl001660 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:28:59 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw2-141-144-73-49.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.73.49]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id jAJLSwpv001653 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:28:58 -0700 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46284 Archived-At: > 1. Could we please include different color-scheme versions of the (same) > icons in the Windows exe? That's a different issue. We currently have only 2 types of icons: for bright background and for dark background; no further color scheme support is available. I say let's first decide whether we want to change the default icon, and if we do, let's after that see if we need to provide more support for color schemes. Yes, of course. I didn't realize the basic design was not yet decided upon. See my other message on that question. > I'm not a Windows expert, but I believe it is easier for a user to change > the icon associated with a shortcut (to an app) than the icon associated > directly with the app itself. But we _are_ talking about an icon for a shortcut, since neither emacs.exe nor runemacs.exe are themselves copied to the Desktop or to the Start Menu. OK, good. I didn't realize that we supplied Desktop and Start Menu shortcuts. > In the case of a shortcut, you just right-click it, choose > Properties, click Change Icon..., and click the icon you want. Did you actually try doing that with the shortcut to runemacs.exe? When you click Properties->Change Icon for a shortcut, the list of available shortcuts shows the ones mentioned in the emacs.rc file, not the ones in the icons/ directory. For the latter, you need to click Browse and navigate to the icons/ directory (or type the directory name directly). I don't have the build here. But, either way is fine with me - it's OK to browse to another location (provided you know where those icons are to be found). > If changing the icon associated directly with an app is harder for users to > do (e.g. change registry settings), then we might want to also provide > shortcuts to runemacs.exe and emacs.exe (and gnuclientw.exe, if that's > provided). We do provide shortcuts to runemacs.exe, in the Start Menu. That's what "addpm /q" does in "make install". Got it. Good. > 2. You ask if we should include the single .ico file from Andrew's email. > The only .ico file in that message is a 48x48 icon. I think it's a 16x16 icon. If you place the mouse pointer above it, doesn't Windows tell you that? My bad. I didn't realize that all of the icons were in the .ico, and I viewed only the 48x48 one. Anyway, these are all technicalities not directly related to the question I asked. Do you like Andrew's icon, and would you like it to be the default icon for Emacs on Windows (assuming that all the other technicalities are resolved)? The icons are fine with me (but see my other message, for personal preferences, if the design is still open). There are 6 images in the .ico file. Two are 16x16 icons, I believe, one of which has the top-bound spiral notebook. Which of the two is the one intended as the default 16x16 image? I personally would prefer a color that stands out a little more - this appears to be a grayscale image, which is pretty dull. But if other color schemes are also provided, then I don't care which color is used as the default. I guess gray has the advantage of "going" with everything (I just prefer that Emacs stand out a bit).