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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: File menu changes (suggestions)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:13:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DNEMKBNJBGPAOPIJOOICEEMJCJAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Dmfpd-0006QJ-Ki@fencepost.gnu.org>

For a new name for "New File", recent discussion has included candidates
Visit New File and New File Buffer.

As I said in my original post, which started this, the problem here is
"New". The best name for this Emacs operation is, as in the past, "Open". I
gave reasons previously.

The problem then is distinguishing this from opening an existing file
*only*. For that, I suggested that "Open File" would be sufficient, since
"file" implies an existing file - you cannot open a new file; you can only
create a new file.

If people don't think that "Open File" sufficiently makes this clear, then
let's call it "Open Existing File" to remove all doubt. The two menu items
would then be:

 - "Open Existing File" = create/select a buffer for an
                          existing file.

 - "Open" = new or existing: "Open Existing File" or
            create a buffer for a new file.

However, as I mentioned, to be consistent, "Open Directory" and "Insert
File" should then also be renamed "Open Existing Directory" and "Insert
Existing File".

I personally think that the following sufficiently suggest existing objects:
"Open File", "Open Directory", and "Insert File". But if people prefer "Open
Existing File" to "Open File", then we have the choice of opting for
consistency, using "Existing" for the others also, or inconsistency, using
it only for "Open Existing File".

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-26 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-19 23:25 File menu changes (suggestions) Drew Adams
2005-06-20  4:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-20  7:03   ` David Kastrup
2005-06-20 16:53   ` Drew Adams
2005-06-20 20:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-20 20:48       ` Drew Adams
2005-06-21  2:01     ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-21  7:59     ` Mathias Dahl
2005-06-21  9:19       ` Miles Bader
2005-06-26  4:46 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-26  5:29   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-26 22:42     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-26 22:52       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-26 23:13       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2005-06-27  7:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27  7:37       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-06-27  9:25         ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 13:29           ` David Kastrup
2005-06-28  4:16         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-26 18:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-26 18:00     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-26 19:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-26 18:20         ` Drew Adams
2005-06-26 19:41           ` John S. Yates, Jr.
     [not found]             ` <42BF0E53.2020505@student.lu.se>
2005-06-27 12:51               ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-27 13:31                 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 17:47                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-06-28  1:57                   ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-27 13:24           ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 16:18             ` Drew Adams
2005-06-27 18:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 18:13               ` Drew Adams
2005-06-27 22:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 22:33                   ` Drew Adams
2005-06-28  4:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-28  6:36                       ` David Kastrup
2005-06-26 18:30     ` Jason Rumney
2005-06-27  2:06       ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27  7:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27  6:31           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 13:26             ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 18:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27  9:19         ` Jason Rumney
2005-06-27  9:41           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 18:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 20:05               ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 20:47                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-27 21:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27  5:38     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-27  7:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 11:40         ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-27 13:26           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-27 18:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <42C044F3.60606@student.lu.se>
     [not found]                 ` <uzmtbeam9.fsf@gnu.org>
2005-06-27 21:06                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-28 18:46               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-28 18:54                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-29 16:05                 ` Sticks! (was: File menu changes (suggestions)) Drew Adams
2005-06-28  4:17             ` File menu changes (suggestions) Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-28  6:39               ` David Kastrup
2005-06-28  5:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-28  7:17     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-28 10:05     ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-30 21:30       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-30 22:15         ` Miles Bader
2005-07-01 22:45           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-02  2:32             ` Miles Bader
2005-06-28 15:28     ` Drew Adams
2005-06-28 16:01       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-28 19:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-28 21:36       ` Miles Bader
2005-06-28 22:00         ` David Kastrup
2005-06-30  7:40           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-29  3:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-29  4:45           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-29 18:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-29 23:46               ` Miles Bader
2005-06-30  1:44           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-30  5:38           ` David Kastrup
2005-06-29 20:43         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-01  1:45     ` public
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-21 15:51 File menu changes (suggestions) / Options menu David Reitter
2005-06-22 12:32 ` File menu changes (suggestions) John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-23  0:46   ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23  2:26     ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-23  2:31       ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23 11:18         ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-23 11:39           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-24  5:36           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-25  1:24             ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-25 16:40               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-24 10:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-26 19:04 David Reitter
2005-06-27  5:37 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-27  8:04 LENNART BORGMAN
2005-06-27  9:24 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 20:01   ` Johan Bockgård
2005-06-30  8:53 LENNART BORGMAN

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