From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: completion-auto-help Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:39:44 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131734418 15161 80.91.229.2 (11 Nov 2005 18:40:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 19:40:08 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eadob-0006JZ-TI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:39:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eadob-0003KL-9y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:39:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EadoT-0003KG-GQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:39:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EadoR-0003K4-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:39:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EadoR-0003K1-Pg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:39:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1EadoR-0001BC-Tm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:39:48 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.50]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jABIpJZs000741 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:51:19 -0600 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jABIdjSA031459 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:39:45 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id jABIdipp031454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:39:44 -0700 Original-To: "Emacs-Devel" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:45760 Archived-At: I wrote: Some people might find the automatic list updating to be distracting (I find it very helpful, personally). Correction - I find it very helpful, provided I want to see the *Completions* list at all. If *Completions* is automatically displayed from the outset, and updated at each keystroke, that can be distracting in some contexts and helpful in others. I mentioned two optional auto-update behaviors in Icicles: non-nil means update *Completions* incrementally, as you type. t means do nothing if *Completions* is not already displayed. non-nil and non-t means display *Completions* and update it. It is the `t' behavior that I find very helpful. I find the non-nil, non-t behavior distracting, depending on the size of the alist for completing-read. With a large alist, auto-update as soon as you start typing something can lead to massive update changes in *Completions*. I'm still requesting a way to display *Completions* from the beginning, but I would use that only in particular contexts - for example, when the list of candidates is relatively small (*Completions* is treated as a menu), in which case, auto-update is not distracting. Otherwise I would use it without auto-update. That's why I'd like to keep the two (display *Completions* initially and auto-update it) as separate options.