From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Emacs for new users Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:05:10 -0800 Message-ID: References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <485b0c380911230905t6513e718w1dd804e18003228@mail.gmail.com> <6E092AF13796494BADEBCE2C5C0361CE@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259186857 9429 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2009 22:07:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: per@starback.se, 'Lennart Borgman' , spedrosa@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 23:07:29 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDQ1B-0006gK-C2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:07:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54226 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQ1A-0005KC-Uj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:07:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDPzS-0003In-Qt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:05:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDPzN-0003B9-U1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:05:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37967 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDPzN-0003Au-NX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:05:29 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:48319) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDPzL-00066z-B7; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:05:27 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nAPM5KEZ011966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:05:22 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nAPLsUOg020692; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:05:21 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt018.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 615985421259186700; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:05:00 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.80.204) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:04:59 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpuGkdsbdvxnT4QTqelIEvtjB7ytQAAKkoQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4B0DAA22.000C:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117778 Archived-At: > > This is not meant to be more convenient or more foolproof. =A0It is > > meant to push the user to use and learn the key bindings. >=20 > Maybe it could also be useful if it was possible to disable the use of > the arrow keys and the next/prev page, home, end, etc, for the people > who want to learn the Control and Meta keybindings. We could disable the keyboard and the mouse, and teach the Zen way. We could sell hair shirts and nail beds at www.gnu.org, to help new = users get in the groove.