From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Andrus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is there a canonical key for S-tab? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:10:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87ipikis87.fsf@gmail.com> <877gz0iqp2.fsf@gmail.com> <87vcm77lhr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1331799106 7454 80.91.229.3 (15 Mar 2012 08:11:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Dev To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 15 09:11:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S85mb-00019C-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:11:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33567 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S85ma-0002KU-8o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:11:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S85mS-0002GZ-8p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:11:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S85m2-0003pO-M5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:11:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:40640) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S85m2-0003p7-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: by bkwq16 with SMTP id q16so2365735bkw.0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:10:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=wn6taR1AyFPq1wNqyc95RCIG1exAYtHMcVmngBwBBa8=; b=RyEr2yEfnswMeQ+4XvNdaFkB0FXStsc8YiYa0rzRqhrzdkVhZHoJYQN6jnEGk+H9AX n98S8edXkNJHY3XJuogDtxZju7fVLL2UYL7xGkW1K7jBfua/mqVN1vtKkf8coe4iT/zq JQKFawhZL7Feco/cvBhEztVBHMXSvZEEx85rryd2+1vHxtv60eRyG2e+rrciWsg6uvll SQNCNXXoYFYLbAleimJtoPsFKcm6NQ7XuHV4tOvqcdV4ybR01xienrFWoGSjnC5dj6fI 7TQCSMVU6iCf3Kj2Lm66wjQnnikevJ6OByG+ucthiIi6ezuuhQPogtCWeMjxkMqqqK2y /imQ== Original-Received: by 10.205.139.67 with SMTP id iv3mr2160703bkc.8.1331799059337; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.50.106] (dsl5402AD5A.pool.t-online.hu. [84.2.173.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u14sm2015521bkp.2.2012.03.15.01.10.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:10:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149070 Archived-At: On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > PS: This reminds me of a related issue: we currently remap the `tab' > symbol to ?\C-i, the `return' symbol to ?\C-m, largely for historical > reasons. It would actually be better to do it the other way around > (i.e. remap ttys's ?\C-i and ?\C-m to `tab' and `return'). One of the > advantages is that a GUI-only user could then more easily bind `tab', > `return', C-m, and C-i independently. As someone who does that (maps tab and C-i differently) this would be = great! That is, unless it means that all my carefully crafted work = arounds now cause problems. -Ivan=