From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:22:37 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87ei1bqi8p.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311877373 7557 80.91.229.12 (28 Jul 2011 18:22:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs devel To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 28 20:22:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QmVEP-0003nr-LO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:22:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54732 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmVEP-0001J3-6E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:22:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35867) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmVEM-0001Ij-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:22:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmVEL-000744-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-7.mit.edu ([18.7.68.36]:58620) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QmVEL-00073u-SS; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:22:45 -0400 X-AuditID: 12074424-b7b0fae000000a08-99-4e31a90c34d1 Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-7.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id C8.03.02568.C09A13E4; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id p6SIMelI001994; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:22:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.22] (c-67-183-32-38.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.183.32.38]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id p6SIMbSZ005373 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:22:40 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrLIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nrsuz0tDP4NFObYvHC56wWkxZspXd gcmjbZpZAGMUl01Kak5mWWqRvl0CV0bbn//sBR9ZKxreTWNtYDzP0sXIySEhYCKxevdfRghb TOLCvfVsXYxcHEIC+xglHn19yg6SEBLYwChx/qAkROIkk8TUCV1sIAlhAReJv69mgnXzChhK LN3UDtbALKAlcePfS6YuRg4ONgEZoKkaIGFOASOJ1ac2gbWyCKhKXDkxmQ2iXFVi/dudUK3a EssWvmaGGGklcet5FxPE3geMErOOPQfbJSLAL/Fw3W9GkPkSArISTcsyJjAKzkJyxSwkV8xC MnYBI/MqRtmU3Crd3MTMnOLUZN3i5MS8vNQiXXO93MwSvdSU0k2M4JB1UdnB2HxI6RCjAAej Eg9vZpGhnxBrYllxZe4hRkkOJiVR3pIlQCG+pPyUyozE4oz4otKc1OJDjBIczEoivCmLgXK8 KYmVValF+TApaQ4WJXHeUu//vkIC6YklqdmpqQWpRTBZGQ4OJQne8hVAjYJFqempFWmZOSUI aSYOTpDhPEDDlUFqeIsLEnOLM9Mh8qcYdTn2rjp8lFGIJS8/L1VKnNcTpEgApCijNA9uDizV vGIUB3pLmHcaSBUPME3BTXoFtIQJaAkrH9iSkkSElFQDY2sL65N58WtuZi852104Y7dO3C/T HdWSD0SKbGLCjslbN/79+M5oihrzT6vpqx4UOKgZhe8refVe7Exh19EF84+8flDDk/neaObO U+KpdTHNy7Y8NNGrUu9Zbzr/oJ1KXvSkikWbHp9MWmeUupap98+p3RJb3s+t0WeZ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 18.7.68.36 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142464 Archived-At: On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Maybe NFS provides a way to have multiple people editing in one file = system. > It is possible to determine whether NFS is in use. There are many remote filesystems in use today, and the number is = increasing as people work to develop better alternatives to DropBox. = I'd guess that SMB, DropBox, WebDAV, NFS, and AFS are the most commonly = used, but that's just a guess. I gather that modern VCSs have cut down = on the use of network filesystems somewhat. Without the lockfile, does Emacs not detect that the file has changed = out from under the buffer? That used to be sufficient for me, when I = used networked file systems 90% of the time. Hope that helps, *Chad