From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is GNU ELPA? Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 15:59:00 +0300 Message-ID: References: <35DBF02E-44D7-41E5-A217-7D6EC84ED221@icloud.com> <07d7ff5d-dd57-00e7-933f-3188d57d6185@yandex.ru> <96f718b4-8ba9-7b9a-f940-7070e4a9a424@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="120182"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pcr910303@icloud.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: rms@gnu.org, Richard Stallman , Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 17 15:00:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jaItl-000Uvb-QZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 15:00:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51822 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaItk-0005QE-S2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 09:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaIsw-00050X-Gt for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 08:59:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaIsu-0003aJ-Vf; Sun, 17 May 2020 08:59:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.12.207.139] (port=60535 helo=[10.156.146.116]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jaIsj-0001fs-O0; Sun, 17 May 2020 08:59:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250594 Archived-At: On May 17, 2020 5:48:53 AM GMT+03:00, Richard Stallman wrot= e: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example=2E ]]] >=20 > > And efaq=2Etexi: >=20 > > There are other, non-GNU, Emacs Lisp package servers, including: > > @uref{https://melpa=2Eorg, MELPA}; and > > @uref{https://marmalade-repo=2Eorg, Marmalade}=2E To use additional > > package servers, customize the @code{package-archives} variable=2E Be > > aware that installing a package can run arbitrary code, so only add > > sources that you trust=2E >=20 > We should not be recommending those to the public=2E Would someone > please delete that text? This text is obsolete=2E The current text says: "There are other, non-GNU, Emacs Lisp package servers, including: MELPA and Marmalade=2E To use additional package servers, customize the 'package-archives' variable=2E Be aware that installing a package can= run arbitrary code, so only add sources that you trust=2E Also, packages hosted on non-GNU package servers may encourage or require you to install and use non-free software; for example, MELPA is known to host some packages that do this=2E" This explicitly warns about the MELPA problem, and so a reference to it th= ere is no more a recommendation to use it than a reference to Microsoft or = MS-Windowd is a promotion of those two=2E It makes very little sense to me to remove any and all references to the M= -word, because doing so doesn't inform our users about these dangers, and t= hus implicitly exposes them to those dangers=2E