From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 13:30:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <560CCEBA.9080607@online.de> <874miapdhs.fsf@openmailbox.org> <8737xuuw2y.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lhbmkrle.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3094\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444239082 21361 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2015 17:31:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 17:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 07 19:31:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjsYe-0000U5-Gy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 19:31:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58845 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjsYd-0003sT-HH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:31:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51201) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjsYR-0003sM-L9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:31:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjsYM-0003V7-Le for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:31:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qg0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c04::230]:35702) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjsYM-0003Ux-IG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: by qgt47 with SMTP id 47so21060171qgt.2 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 10:30:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:mime-version:subject:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=uQDkNxnCS2wCg6Iu0LiwYckJ7JdTQ1jGw340QZZ1nW4=; b=jrK93RQE4kXoIRLwFvTahwPJJa5hVrL/Y7zdGY2H4HK+/KL/V0Z1/Dp+l0S/9Zxr3R T4mywO2U0a4XF99E0c3b6Wnt7NL8QKzZ3JUF/Zgk5UrThlRdei8vWHjCNKag1mY7xHv6 HjgLrRUGBAAdCu3EIMXWqYIIpAvu43BNAta4UNFraAuSDSt3gBhr19K2MBL6ojA1trp5 Pfc618S7LDkmreEZbktKVe5/AeVjcRfK6QmrJMOmKJHttlAej8TuyDkBlKd86aSO+KgQ KhYwcVGqtv83ZTV5xILvsuHQiTZuOhoZMrM+t/MYba9IMdnLoOcUE0CgTNsvLyXFHquA 8caQ== X-Received: by 10.140.148.203 with SMTP id 194mr3150886qhu.102.1444239058018; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 10:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from imac.ist.psu.edu ([130.203.152.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h198sm16563509qhc.47.2015.10.07.10.30.56 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Oct 2015 10:30:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: David Reitter In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3094) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191053 Archived-At: On Oct 5, 2015, at 6:21 PM, John Wiegley wrote: >=20 >>>>>> David Reitter writes: >=20 >> Do you consider downstream projects a legitimate way of providing = that >> experience on the basis of GPL principles without diluting the = overall >> mission of the FSF and the GNU project? >=20 > Can you give an example? I don't fully understand your question. I=E2=80=99m sorry, I thought that was obvious. Since 2005, the Aquamacs project has been publishing its own Emacs = distribution for the Mac, based on a recent stable or development-stage = version of Emacs 22, 23, 24, and soon 25. The version we distribute = is patched at Lisp and C levels, and it comes packaged with a great deal = of useful packages, including ESS and AUCTeX. Last time I checked, we = had about 12-14,000 regular users (not just installs). It=E2=80=99s a downstream project implementing features that do not = conform to all of GNU=E2=80=99s and the FSF=E2=80=99s policies, and = addressing a non-free (but quite open) platform. I think it still = promotes freedom among those who choose this platform. D=