From: Charles Choi <kickingvegas@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Subject: Re: Request to distribute Casual packages on NonGNU ELPA
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:05:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D49214A1-3437-46B2-94FD-3248AA19DDFF@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5fvsi0x.fsf@posteo.net>
Philip -
Thanks for responding. My answers to your questions as follows:
> I haven't tried the code yet, and reviewing these will take some time,
> but my understanding that this is reinventing a lot of Emacs
> functionality using Transient, right?
The Casual packages should be viewed as user interface porcelains to existing Emacs functionality and takes great effort to not "reinvent" nor re-implement existing commands and their associated variables. No functions are advised by Casual. The Casual packages do however re-imagine the interactive user interfaces to said commands and variables as keyboard-driven menus.
> Do you have any preferred or recommended order in which you think that I
> should review the code? From the names I am guessing that casual-lib is
> a dependency that the others share?
casual-lib is a common library to all the Casual packages. It is recommended that this package be reviewed first. casual-suite is an umbrella package that includes all Casual packages and as such should be reviewed last.
At current there are 13 Casual packages to review. Here's a recommended order of review that skews toward the simpler packages to be reviewed earlier. That said the only strict guidance is to review casual-lib first and casual-suite last.
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-lib/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-isearch/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-symbol-overlay/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-avy/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-re-builder/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-dired/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-bookmarks/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-calc/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-ibuffer/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-info/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-agenda/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-editkit/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-suite/
> Another question that I can only raise now as I haven't looked at the
> code in greater detail yet is how deep the transient dependency goes.
> Would it be possible to re-use quick-help instead? I had sketched
> something along those lines a few months back, where a map could bind a
> pseudo-key to return a `help-quick-sections' like structure. The
> advantage is that you only have to list commands and descriptions,
> without trying to bind key again inside of Transient, as I understand it
> being the case right now.
The Casual packages use Transient to implement keyboard-driven menus with opinionated bindings. I consider these binding decisions to be core to the value of Casual in that they support a truly hand-crafted user experience. I have no interest in refactoring their behavior to use quick-help, nor in maintaining strict conformance to existing default command bindings. That said, many existing default command bindings are supported in Casual. If any of these positions are a block to publication on NonGNU ELPA, I will retract my request for review. Hopefully though this is not the case as I have the greatest enthusiasm to see these packages being reviewed and published on ELPA.
All my best -
Charles
—
Charles Y. Choi, Ph.D.
kickingvegas@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-25 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-24 21:35 Request to distribute Casual packages on NonGNU ELPA Charles Choi
2024-09-25 17:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-25 18:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 20:05 ` Charles Choi [this message]
2024-09-25 20:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-26 18:06 ` Charles Choi
2024-09-28 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-28 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-28 8:52 ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27 15:52 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-27 16:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-27 18:12 ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27 18:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-09-27 20:05 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-28 14:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-26 19:08 ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27 4:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-27 15:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-27 16:13 ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-09-27 19:20 ` Charles Choi
2024-09-30 3:26 ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-30 3:57 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-03 3:33 ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-25 23:44 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-26 17:01 ` Charles Choi
2024-09-26 18:05 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-27 15:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-27 5:43 ` Stefan Kangas
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