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From: Charles Choi <kickingvegas@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Subject: Re: Request to distribute Casual packages on NonGNU ELPA
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:05:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D49214A1-3437-46B2-94FD-3248AA19DDFF@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5fvsi0x.fsf@posteo.net>

Philip - 

Thanks for responding. My answers to your questions as follows:

> I haven't tried the code yet, and reviewing these will take some time,
> but my understanding that this is reinventing a lot of Emacs
> functionality using Transient, right?

The Casual packages should be viewed as user interface porcelains to existing Emacs functionality and takes great effort to not "reinvent" nor re-implement existing commands and their associated variables. No functions are advised by Casual. The Casual packages do however re-imagine the interactive user interfaces to said commands and variables as keyboard-driven menus.

> Do you have any preferred or recommended order in which you think that I
> should review the code?  From the names I am guessing that casual-lib is
> a dependency that the others share?

casual-lib is a common library to all the Casual packages. It is recommended that this package be reviewed first. casual-suite is an umbrella package that includes all Casual packages and as such should be reviewed last.

At current there are 13 Casual packages to review. Here's a recommended order of review that skews toward the simpler packages to be reviewed earlier. That said the only strict guidance is to review casual-lib first and casual-suite last.

https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-lib/

https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-isearch/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-symbol-overlay/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-avy/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-re-builder/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-dired/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-bookmarks/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-calc/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-ibuffer/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-info/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-agenda/
https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-editkit/

https://github.com/kickingvegas/casual-suite/


> Another question that I can only raise now as I haven't looked at the
> code in greater detail yet is how deep the transient dependency goes.
> Would it be possible to re-use quick-help instead?  I had sketched
> something along those lines a few months back, where a map could bind a
> pseudo-key to return a `help-quick-sections' like structure.  The
> advantage is that you only have to list commands and descriptions,
> without trying to bind key again inside of Transient, as I understand it
> being the case right now.

The Casual packages use Transient to implement keyboard-driven menus with opinionated bindings. I consider these binding decisions to be core to the value of Casual in that they support a truly hand-crafted user experience. I have no interest in refactoring their behavior to use quick-help, nor in maintaining strict conformance to existing default command bindings. That said, many existing default command bindings are supported in Casual. If any of these positions are a block to publication on NonGNU ELPA, I will retract my request for review. Hopefully though this is not the case as I have the greatest enthusiasm to see these packages being reviewed and published on ELPA.


All my best -

Charles

—
Charles Y. Choi, Ph.D.
kickingvegas@gmail.com






  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-25 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-24 21:35 Request to distribute Casual packages on NonGNU ELPA Charles Choi
2024-09-25 17:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-25 18:30   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 20:05     ` Charles Choi [this message]
2024-09-25 20:15       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-26 18:06         ` Charles Choi
2024-09-28  3:08         ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-28  3:08         ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-28  8:52           ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27 15:52       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-27 16:04         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-27 18:12         ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27 18:58           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-09-27 20:05           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-28 14:02       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-26 19:08   ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27  4:40     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-27 15:34       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-27 16:13         ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27 16:03     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-09-27 19:20       ` Charles Choi
2024-09-30  3:26         ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-30  3:57           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-03  3:33             ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-25 23:44 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-26 17:01   ` Charles Choi
2024-09-26 18:05     ` Adam Porter
2024-09-27 15:18       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-27  5:43     ` Stefan Kangas

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