From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Dominik Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: recent changes to org files Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:19:37 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8D11CC21-71C6-4BCE-ACBC-090E429E311A@science.uva.nl> <86k5pe6t4e.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <1100BA17-7426-4C73-9EF0-FF90C1859B47@gmail.com> <12EC2A79-9F93-4080-AB48-A9E408DEBD3A@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1193170804 22546 80.91.229.12 (23 Oct 2007 20:20:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Wiegley , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Glenn Morris To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 23 22:20:04 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IkQEK-0008NN-Jf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:20:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IkQEC-0005qC-I1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:19:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IkQEA-0005q7-8j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:19:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IkQE8-0005on-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:19:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IkQE8-0005oe-IR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:19:48 -0400 Original-Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.187]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IkQE7-0004lQ-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:19:48 -0400 Original-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c27so1450593rvf for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:19:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=4RERQdfmNAsNwIHNmIdozQBaPhjv9MOu+HcPjrk0L58=; b=VAwazwR+ft1HuhgcVyG+zhpHPb1A3nOPhPJuEmlxp0zBtHQiL8cW7UA9XAkarqtgSQbU2ArcUE3ZBjQ5nHxLtm4sVbt5+/34P9xqByeas5Ae4/9EIwHx+w+VdLeabJPoSMR6PbkmSvLCyQ+EmqdHwwAVqTfB/ff/EmkjZphz1tQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=MVPrs9zP45oO68B0d8+SrWpxmZTDxFHxqBUMH5eeh1B3PQSGC4ECCxEw2E+CD7HEWoZ+w7kfYyBf5kMeevxdHHjoK25hllppCt8yw5NYjBMgN9pZx/wE1fEnWU89D4DZ8Kph9H9nmEf2YuUAgpk1UQKnE7IvrMbENrbOEVqeq+M= Original-Received: by 10.141.180.5 with SMTP id h5mr3356337rvp.1193170784818; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [81.71.213.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d27sm7636412nfh.2007.10.23.13.19.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:19:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:81593 Archived-At: On Oct 23, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On 10/23/07, Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> I was referring to this statement. It is not enough to install only >> patches, >> I also need to actively monitor changes that are made by others. > > OK, now I understand. Thanks. > > However, someone has to track the changes. Either you track the > changes in the CVS, or whomever intends to fix or change anything in > the CVS must check that his changes don't conflict with your version > (and that makes having Org in the CVS somewhat irrelevant), or the > person goes ahead, does the change and sends it to you (and then, if > your copy varies much faster than the CVS one, conflicts are bound to > happen and effort is wasted). Well, I am doing this. I am checking changes made in the CVS and incorporate them into my copy. I never said that I was not doing this. I don't know how this discussion came to suggest that I am not doing it. However, I made a mistake, partly because too many people made a mistake became involved in the loop and my own versioning system seems not good enough. I will work on this, but I do make mistakes. And: it would be helpful for me if there was a system through which I could automatically get patches of changes to Emacs CVS versions of my files. I don't think it is too much to ask. Regulars in the emacs development community probably know that, even though org is very stable and has only had very few bug reports inside Emacs, I am still making big changes often. So notification, better a request for double checking changes to the files from others is, I think, reasonable to ask for. - Carsten