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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Lennart Borgman'" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Juri Linkov' <juri@jurta.org>,
	'Wojciech Meyer' <wojciech.meyer@googlemail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: dired-jump keybinding and autoload
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:11:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D30334D6F5E246919C9EE7B448F6DC0E@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqrwqu94cPPVNIfypSKwHjWGUMucat4nf8yREU@mail.gmail.com>

> More important: C-x C-j is reserved for Emacs internal use if I
> understand it correctly.

No, I don't see that anywhere.  Why would that be the case?

> See (info "(elisp) Key Binding Conventions"). I might be wrong since
> that page does not mention C-x, but I think it should.

You ask us to visit that node, but there is nothing there supporting your claim
- which you subsequently admit.  Just what would you like us to look for in that
node?

> That C-x today happens to be a bad choice (because of CUA) is another
> thing.

Sure is.  Unrelated, irrelevant, unimportant.

C-x today, yesterday, and tomorrow is an _excellent_ choice as an Emacs key
prefix.  It is easy-to-hand.  And it has been conventional in Emacs (and even
beyond) for over 30 years.

Saying that C-x is a bad choice because of CUA is like saying that driving on
the right side of the road is a bad choice because of Britain (or Japan or
India... - no flames please) - http://www.brianlucas.ca/roadside/.  When in
CUA-land, follow the rules of the CUA road, but don't expect folks across the
border to do the same.

> I definitively does not get better if 3rd party libraries
> starts using it too.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with users or 3rd-party code using the C-x
prefix.  Or else there is a new restriction/convention that I am not aware of.

The conventions stated in `(elisp) Key Binding Conventions' are long-standing
and pretty carefully thought out.  There are enough such restrictions, IMO.  I
do not support adding C-x to any list of bindings "reserved for Emacs internal
use".





  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-23 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-08 12:59 dired-jump keybinding and autoload Stephen Berman
2008-05-08 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-08 14:36   ` David Kastrup
2008-05-08 16:08     ` Stephen Berman
2008-05-09 23:52       ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-18 22:59         ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-23 15:48           ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-05-23 16:04             ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-23 16:45               ` Drew Adams
2010-05-23 16:50                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-23 17:11                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2010-05-23 17:24                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-23 18:14                       ` Drew Adams
2010-05-23 18:47                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-23 20:56                           ` Drew Adams
2010-05-23 21:08                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24  1:01                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-24  1:30                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24  5:03                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-23 16:59               ` Leo
2010-05-24 16:00                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-24 16:17                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24 16:46                     ` Drew Adams
2010-05-24 16:53                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24 16:35                   ` Drew Adams
2010-05-24  5:05             ` Miles Bader
2010-05-24  7:19               ` Wojciech Meyer
2010-05-24 17:39                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-25  6:35                 ` Miles Bader

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