From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Dominik Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:05:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9iwcp.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9fiu0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363064750 5352 80.91.229.3 (12 Mar 2013 05:05:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 05:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jambunathan K , Subhan Tindall , Richard Stallman To: "Stephen J. 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[146.50.144.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id er3sm19572921wib.1.2013.03.11.22.05.36 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:05:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87mwu9fiu0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157757 Archived-At: On 12.3.2013, at 03:33, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Jambunathan is claiming that he has not yet designated this work as > within the scope of Emacs, but he may be ignorant of the legal > implications of committing code to certain repositories. On the other > hand, a court might construe his ignorance to mean that no intent to > contribute was present. It is easy to see and prove that the intent from day on was to become part of Emacs. It is clear that there is no ignorance in play. If anything, the conflict might have been caused in part by the fact that the delay to get this code into Emacs was long. Jambunathan has made it entirely explicit that the aim of his change of heart in this question is this (I quote from a message to emacs-orgmode@gnu.org): "I am stating my purpose in no uncertain terms - yes it is to delay the release or cause confusion." While I am sympathetic to the *feel* that code I write should only go where I want it, I don't think it provides a proper basis for working in a free software environment in the GPL sense. Code committed to repositories under GPL, and in this case also with and FSF copyright assignment in place invites modification and contributors by other authors (as has been the case for at least one of the files in question). These contributions are made under the correct assumption that the code will remain to be free and that the intent to make it part of Org-mode and/or Emacs is irreversible. - Carsten