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From: Pavlo Martynenko <pavelmart@gmail.com>
To: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:04:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D18DFFBF-2FB1-4B4F-AA34-03015F05129A@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6BC9F752-C724-4C3D-B2B9-088597A57C3E@gmail.com>

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On 21 Jul 2012, at 19:53, chad wrote:

> If this video purports to show anything except that the mac port has gui animations added to it, then I don't see it (the gui animations themselves are a source of problems, as has been reported here twice).

The main purpose is to show better scrolling and buffer switching with two fingers. "Look and feel" and animation. Nothing more.

> Assuming that by `ugly' you mean 'lacks gui animations', I wonder if you can provide a bug report or video describing problems with C-g, font rendering, modifier keys, multiprocessing, or networking?

I meant it looks ugly. Even animations is not important. Mac Port looks native, while NS port looks and behaves alien to OS X. It is like big step backward in time.



NS port is on the left where the font is narrow and faint. Same font but different frame height. And where is the true brown?

As for modifier keys, multiprocessing and network I'd like to switch to NS port for a while, and inform about them, if there is one (I hope there is none now). But I will terribly miss nice smooth scrolling and buffer switching with two fingers. Instead I'l be happy to provide any information about Mac Port.

I applied Mac Port patch on trunk (just monkey patching). But the resulting Emacs has a really bad response on keyboard entry and mouse/trackpad.

Btw. Mac Port has more great features. Triple tap on selected word calls dictionary. 



And here is difference in flymake highlighting. Startup configs are the same.




On 23 Jul 2012, at 21:57, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> Do you compile your own binaries, for instance?

Yes.

> Do you have problems with some specific network connections?

Yes in slow and bad networks. It looks like after loosing some packets comes problem with C-g, and the only way was to killall -9 Emacs.

> As far as "ugly" I have no opinion, and haven't noticed font issues or
> other visual problems. The NS port's functionality has been all right
> for me, especially keyboard entry, multiprocessing, and networking.

Did you noticed that NS port is just fine only for those who never tried Mac Port, and those who are not using OS X every day?

I have used NS port today, and I have to agree it response very well and looks better than two month ago but it still ugly.

	Pavlo





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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-24 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-12  4:06 Emacs on OS X development Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-12  7:23 ` Rasmus
2011-09-12  7:59   ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 16:37 ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 17:51   ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:27     ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 18:43       ` John Wiegley
2011-09-13 18:56         ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-13 19:19           ` David Reitter
2011-09-14  1:13         ` Leo
2011-09-14  1:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13  0:23             ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13  0:57               ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13  1:18                 ` chad
2012-07-13  1:07               ` chad
2012-07-13  3:12                 ` John Wiegley
2012-07-20 13:51                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-21  9:40                   ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-21 14:02                     ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-24  6:39                       ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-25 13:11                         ` Michael Albinus
2012-07-21 16:53                     ` chad
2012-07-24 13:04                       ` Pavlo Martynenko [this message]
2012-07-24 14:45                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-25  3:00                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-25 14:41                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-26 22:58                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-29 17:58                                 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-29 22:31                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-30  0:04                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30  3:25                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-30  4:48                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-30  5:06                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-30 22:40                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-30 23:01                                         ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-31  1:38                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-07-31 13:50                                         ` Nix
2012-07-31 15:58                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-02  5:16                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-08-03 21:15                                     ` Dave Abrahams
2012-07-31 18:31                               ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-03 20:08                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-08-03 20:28                                   ` Adrian Robert
2012-08-05 12:51                                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-21 17:20                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-23 14:50                                         ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-24  0:23                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-12-24 10:22                                             ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25  7:17                         ` chad
2012-07-27 12:17                           ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-22  9:31                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-22 22:16                       ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23  7:26                         ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-23  8:46                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-23 13:52                           ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 19:45                       ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-23 23:12                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:20                         ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-23 23:13                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 20:46                         ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 21:17                           ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-23 21:28                             ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:26                               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-24  6:25                                 ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24  8:36                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-25  7:27                                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-25  8:15                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-24  9:01                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-25  7:38                                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-24 16:09                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-25  7:43                                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-23 23:15                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-23 23:40                             ` chad
2012-07-23 21:45                         ` chad
2012-07-23 23:00                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-24  1:13                           ` Leo
2012-07-23 18:57                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-07-13  3:28               ` Le Wang
2012-07-13 10:02               ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 10:45                 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-14  8:39                   ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 12:09               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 14:00                 ` René Kyllingstad
2012-07-13 17:48                   ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 18:16                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-13 19:07                       ` Glenn Morris
2012-07-13 19:54                       ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 20:12                         ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-13 20:32                           ` Ivan Andrus
2012-07-13 21:04                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-13 21:44                             ` chad
2012-07-13 22:30                               ` John Wiegley
2012-07-14 10:35                               ` Sudish Joseph
2012-07-14  9:00                         ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-14 22:56                           ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15  0:54                             ` Chong Yidong
2012-07-15  2:45                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-15  3:40                               ` John Wiegley
2012-07-15 13:12                                 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-15 17:50                                   ` chad
2012-07-15 21:20                                     ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-15 21:34                                     ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-15 22:11                                       ` chad
2012-07-15 22:22                                       ` David Reitter
2012-07-18  0:16                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18  2:56                                         ` John Wiegley
2012-07-18  3:42                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-18  8:21                                             ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-18 20:43                                             ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-18 21:03                                               ` chad
2012-07-19  8:12                                               ` Jan Djärv
2012-07-18 17:19                                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-19 13:31                                           ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-15 22:19                               ` David Reitter
2012-07-16  2:20                             ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-17 10:18                               ` Pavlo Martynenko
2012-07-17 12:14                                 ` William Stevenson
2012-07-15 21:52                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-13 17:48                 ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14  2:21           ` chad
2011-09-14  3:00             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-14 12:54           ` Jan D.
2011-09-13 19:51   ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 19:57     ` Adrian Robert
2011-09-13 20:33       ` Jan Djärv
2011-09-13 20:05   ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-13 21:47     ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14  1:59       ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14  2:09         ` John Wiegley
2011-09-14 14:10           ` Richard Stallman
2011-09-14 14:30             ` Stephen Eilert
2011-09-14 18:06               ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-15  4:11               ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-13  1:14             ` Samuel Bronson

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