From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mirek Kaim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Turning off colorization Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:29:11 +0100 Message-ID: References: , <87a944cm3x.fsf@moondust.localdomain>, <83r3xfs8mx.fsf@gnu.org>, <83r3xeqfa9.fsf@gnu.org>, , , NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415633408 30076 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2014 15:30:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "nljlistbox2@gmail.com" , Eli Zaretskii , "rms@gnu.org" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , James Cloos Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 16:30:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnquk-00069W-2D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:29:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43811 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnquj-0007kr-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:29:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53084) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XnquP-0007kk-IS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:29:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XnquI-0001nV-40 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:29:37 -0500 Original-Received: from col004-omc2s6.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.80]:53964) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnqu1-0001jk-D6; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:29:13 -0500 Original-Received: from COL131-W40 ([65.55.34.73]) by COL004-OMC2S6.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 10 Nov 2014 07:29:12 -0800 X-TMN: [RMRf8cW1M6OQGGx/MwoH/dmHv+68I2LA4unzHv7oBN4=] X-Originating-Email: [mirek.kaim@outlook.com] Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2014 15:29:12.0071 (UTC) FILETIME=[14116970:01CFFCFB] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 7 or 8 [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 65.55.34.80 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176686 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen=0A= >=0A= > But if it's about rendering text under a terminal=2C I think the best=0A= > general fix is to disable all colourisation unless Emacs can determine=0A= > what the background colour actually is. This is a general problem that=0A= > has plagued Emacs' colour selection thing for yonks=2C but hasn't really= =0A= > been addressed.=0A= =0A= i think it's best to use 'do we have at least 256-color support' instead. h= ow do you want to determine what the background rgb values are? the name of= the color doesn't mean anything=2C people use themes for terminals. when t= heme is reasonable=2C it may work=2C more or less (probably less)=2C but if= colors are totally different than their names suggest=2C it's all bound to= be wrong. the only solution to that is using 256 colors and not giving a d= amn about the current theme at all=2C at least when the html rendering is s= upposed to stay as close to the original as possible.=0A= =0A= =0A= unic0rn=0A= =0A= =