From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: some emacs history Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:57:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272650265 30691 80.91.229.12 (30 Apr 2010 17:57:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 30 19:57:43 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7uT5-0001SU-VU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:57:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40797 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O7uT5-0001R8-Fv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:57:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O7uT1-0001R2-A3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:57:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42756 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O7uSz-0001Qu-Lz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:57:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7uSs-0002Cf-W5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.math.utah.edu ([155.101.98.135]:33973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7uSs-0002Bt-Me for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from psi.math.utah.edu (psi.math.utah.edu [155.101.96.19]) by mail.math.utah.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o3UHvNvq016831; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:57:23 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: from psi.math.utah.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by psi.math.utah.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o3UHvNei028058; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:57:23 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from beebe@localhost) by psi.math.utah.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o3UHvNGj028057; Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:57:23 -0600 (MDT) X-US-Mail: "Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (mail.math.utah.edu [155.101.98.135]); Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:57:23 -0600 (MDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124362 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: >> This is a big problem with doi. It may point to hidden resources and >> in fact be totally useless for those who does not have access. I don't view that as a problem peculiar to DOIs; it also applies to URLs, as well as non-electronic services, such as private clubs. Somethings in life are free, but most are not. By giving the article title in my posting, I hoped that list readers without access might see whether a preprint can be found for free elsewhere on the Web. That is frequently the case with academic research, although I suspect that Dan Murphy has retired by now. However, I should have mentioned in my posting that many city, county, regional, and academic libraries can get copies of journal articles via the international Interlibrary Loan facility, often at no cost to the borrow. [I once got a physical book from a library in Scotland that way.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------