From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew DeVault" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:16:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <10BD09F0-96B6-4A7C-890C-F738DC50B59D@thornhill.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6761"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, larsi@gnus.org, danflscr@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Theodor Thornhill" , "Eli Zaretskii" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 12:21:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJvSk-0001XE-Ox for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 12:21:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53664 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJvSj-0008KK-9y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 06:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50538) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJvRg-0006oo-Kp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 06:20:18 -0400 Original-Received: from out0.migadu.com ([94.23.1.103]:58161) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJvRa-0001qC-PO; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 06:20:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cmpwn.com; s=key1; t=1630146002; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=WvBgt+1Y/qMx4qCyuSWpwixceOV7ian8rVrwbmiXBdg=; b=fcfGluWfHIb5OhnjYVgt2hHVRKitrU90XFLcmbG+lMavh47NAMJLGyEMw5KJrtoevrVV9D 43SUlVWJL8WRYpFCQkahu0GM/6H6in0nWSXp/VXf6w4eIeq2mLJKrg5QkN5jmN9Wlzc9mY vty8NZnCZKSP5qcpcC3Ofb0PfE6AqrFkbQToNO4gq0ITuDJk0b9fwaJrkqsuk9A1DwgmNo BQoLdDxFUl5U4iZ6Pd8f3pVRSzR/glY3KamCvFQIWd/8vjp5urSHmYXD0ppWYiHLyVce8W gzTxEETbd2479HeglS6ftYbyNGeXDsMsPAdmL3V5qEYZYp6/1vC03QF5BHKf8w== X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. In-Reply-To: <10BD09F0-96B6-4A7C-890C-F738DC50B59D@thornhill.no> X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Migadu-Auth-User: sir@cmpwn.com Received-SPF: pass client-ip=94.23.1.103; envelope-from=sir@cmpwn.com; helo=out0.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273269 Archived-At: Hi! This thread is on my radar but I am at an event so I am a bit scarce on time. I will answer any questions in thorough detail tomorrow or Monday. In the meantime, a small summary based on what I've acertained from reading this thread: First, we would be very pleased to host emacs on our service, or with our software on your own infrastructure. It should more-or-less work with everyone's existing workflows, given that emacs is an email-oriented project, and over time we are developing an improved web-based experience which should allow more and more users access to emacs development over time without necessarily requiring the maintainers or those who prefer their email-oriented workflow to have to change their workflow to accomodate a platform like GitLab. We should also rate quite highly in terms of free-as-in-freedom, since the entire service is free software, mostly AGPL. Regarding payment, payment is expected of those who *own* resources on SourceHut, for the hosted version only. If you host it yourself, you can configure these settings per your needs. So, for instance, the person who has control over the emacs mailing lists would be expected to have a paid account. However, contributors, i.e. someone who sends a patch to that list, are not expected to pay. In fact, you don't need an account to participate at all, much like GNU Mailman (which I think you're using now?) The bug tracker is indeed a bit different, but we are planning improvements which will make it more email-oriented, by basically making it a frontend for the mailing lists similarly to how debbugs works. If you have any other questions, drop them in my inbox and I'll answer as soon as I'm able. Cheers!