From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>,
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:07:16 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_d_8Xxaby9Wacc69-o1iQCy=5+ashSvEJ0yxJSDr3-1TFRdQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ed8ce2mh.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 13:59, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> wrote:
> > +@kindex C-x 4 LEFT
> > +@kindex C-x 4 RIGHT
> > +@kindex C-x 4 UP
> > +@kindex C-x 4 DOWN
>
> I can't believe someone might want to use such long key sequences
> for one of the most frequent actions. It's even longer than
> 'C-x o' it's supposed to improve. I think there are no better keys
> for switching windows than arrows with a modifier.
My feeling exactly. C-x o is already too long.
Moreover, the modifier involved cannot be a common one, because Shift
is occupied by region selection, Ctrl and Alt with word movement.
Also, the windmove modifier in Emacs needs to be the same as the pane
switching modifier in screen/tmux/kitty and different from that of i3,
and that is something that only the end user can set up for themself.
And I don’t even know a solution for Emacs in a terminal multiplexer,
because there are not enough modifiers.
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2021-08-21 19:10 Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Daniel Colascione
2021-08-21 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 19:27 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-08-21 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-22 8:35 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-21 19:42 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-25 13:12 ` Kaushal Modi
2021-08-21 20:20 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-22 8:32 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 13:43 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-22 0:43 ` Phil Sainty
2021-08-22 5:13 ` Teemu Likonen
2021-08-22 9:22 ` Teemu Likonen
2021-08-21 19:26 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 8:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-22 14:05 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 19:16 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-08-22 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-22 22:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-23 5:16 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2021-08-24 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-25 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2024-06-21 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-21 20:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 10:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 11:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 12:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 12:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 13:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 13:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 20:55 ` chad
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 12:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 13:40 ` Po Lu
2024-06-23 13:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 14:15 ` Po Lu
2024-06-23 14:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 7:41 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-06-24 12:13 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-24 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 15:09 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-06-24 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-25 1:41 ` Joel Reicher
2024-06-24 15:57 ` Petteri Hintsanen
2024-06-25 21:26 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-26 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 11:44 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 13:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 15:49 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-28 19:47 ` Hovav Shacham
2024-06-28 20:45 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-29 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-01 1:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-26 13:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 13:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 14:13 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 14:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 15:15 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 15:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 15:42 ` Colin Baxter
2024-06-26 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 14:41 ` Joel Reicher
2024-06-26 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 14:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 17:02 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-26 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-26 15:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 13:53 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 14:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 14:48 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-26 14:51 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 15:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-27 15:35 ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-06-26 17:02 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-02 6:28 ` Visuwesh
2024-06-23 14:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 14:37 ` Po Lu
2024-06-23 14:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-24 10:35 ` Joel Reicher
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 13:48 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 14:14 ` Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove] tomas
2024-06-23 14:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 15:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 15:34 ` tomas
2024-06-23 19:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-25 14:28 ` [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in, opt-out " Madhu
2024-06-25 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2024-06-25 23:03 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide via Emacs development discussions.
2024-06-28 4:02 ` Richard Stallman
2024-06-28 5:28 ` Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out " Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-28 6:33 ` tomas
2024-06-23 14:25 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Po Lu
2024-06-23 14:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 15:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 19:10 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-06-23 13:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 14:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 18:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 18:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 19:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 20:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 21:09 ` Drew Adams
2024-06-23 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-23 20:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-23 20:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-24 2:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 10:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-24 11:45 ` Po Lu
2024-06-25 2:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 3:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-24 4:23 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-24 7:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-24 14:46 ` Drew Adams
2024-06-24 6:32 ` Juri Linkov
2024-06-26 15:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-26 20:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-27 5:16 ` Attitude (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-27 12:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 1:29 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Stefan Kangas
2024-07-01 10:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 10:47 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 11:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 13:20 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 18:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 0:52 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 11:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 13:28 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-01 19:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 21:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 22:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 1:00 ` Po Lu
2024-07-02 3:26 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 4:34 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 5:59 ` C-o Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 6:23 ` C-o Visuwesh
2024-07-02 12:51 ` C-o Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 13:06 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 13:39 ` C-o Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 14:02 ` C-o Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-03 9:24 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-03 11:33 ` C-o Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-03 12:15 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 14:02 ` C-o T.V Raman
2024-07-02 15:36 ` C-o Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-02 22:27 ` C-o Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-02 22:31 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Stefan Kangas
2024-07-02 22:44 ` C-o Jeremy Bryant
2024-07-03 10:07 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Per Starbäck
2024-07-03 12:48 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-03 16:24 ` C-o Yuri Khan
2024-07-03 16:32 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-05 4:14 ` C-o Richard Stallman
2024-07-05 4:28 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-03 19:13 ` C-o Bob Rogers
2024-07-02 7:28 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-02 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 1:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 1:51 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-02 2:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 3:47 ` Drew Adams
2024-07-02 22:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-02 1:47 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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2024-07-02 13:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 14:43 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-01 18:12 ` [External] : Re: Proposal: new default bindings for windmove. [Working minor mode] Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 2:26 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Richard Stallman
2024-07-01 23:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 1:02 ` Po Lu via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-02 2:03 ` Howard Melman
2024-07-02 12:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 3:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 4:14 ` Po Lu
2024-07-02 13:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 13:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-07-02 14:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-07-02 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 22:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-03 3:14 ` Hovav Shacham
2024-07-02 6:50 ` Juri Linkov
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2024-07-02 13:31 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
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