From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:10:16 +0600 Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87mw01uj06.fsf@gmail.com> <877fr5t282.fsf@gnu.org> <557F2ECC.40201@cs.ucla.edu> <87pp4wjh51.fsf@gnu.org> <87ioanuag0.fsf@gmail.com> <87fv5rrftc.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434460264 8227 80.91.229.3 (16 Jun 2015 13:11:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:11:04 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 16 15:11:04 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qdp-00018b-Mb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:11:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40180 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qdo-0003W4-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:11:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qdU-0003OU-9W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:10:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qdT-0002BN-Dw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:10:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]:36785) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qdT-0002AI-6m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:10:39 -0400 Original-Received: by lbbqq2 with SMTP id qq2so10525639lbb.3 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:10:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=axf8A+7GTdA0kDswTDAK+DaiNJbSDIsafKN/CKcyKjY=; b=vZLB0RTnsXpva661pDHhdrXj81RtCzPfDTnnA1y6OGxma/h8cANJHGoCEu+tEE7K+U +yXfusVqTS7d9Tx190uOQ46ULvwcm6xavIXHZVFJ9Yn9Uk/3HAewCzlJA728xHrATHmP GidNHs4kAxeDnHFFPIsp6Qp385ruUo3B+5ZE8B1gN96SQwG6L19YWzowqH0G4vnz2ROO nlqJIsDb2c/adgKu0uEkIfKoNA/QJXZPmaxQTlFagsBB7C2xDKjzsGpdpZEhyB0IrXD/ o9ySFIN56ibMKxSzN+bghUykgIFYDrPDMo4zxlGC20ePPVXC+p21ws1GVcBOX8SPAlCo U86g== X-Received: by 10.152.5.65 with SMTP id q1mr555415laq.110.1434460237595; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.43.65 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:10:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fv5rrftc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: JpkR6i0drSX6bZmVplKq7jVQrI0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187212 Archived-At: On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Robert Pluim writes: > >>> What does "Alt key works" mean? Alt is Meta here, so typing >>> Alt-AltGr-( says M-[ is undefined. >> >> I think what Paul means is that Alt should send Alt. I have my >> left-Alt configured as Meta, but my right-Alt configured as Alt, so I >> can type single and double quotes without all the C-x 8 RET malarkey. > > I don't even have a right Alt key, only AltGr which I need to be able to > type {[`@=E2=82=AC=C2=B4]} etc. So extend that to be able to also enter =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D=E2=80=98=E2=80= =99=C2=AB=C2=BB=E2=80=93=E2=80=94=E2=80=A6=C3=B7=C3=97=E2=88=92=C2=B1=E2=89= =A0=C2=B0=C2=A7=C2=AE=C2=A9=E2=84=A2.