From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs" Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 00:02:46 +0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20427"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 19:14:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kBLTd-0005CL-Rk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:14:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58452 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBLTc-0002bz-Rv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:14:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51652) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBLIk-0002BH-51 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vk1-xa2b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2b]:43577) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBLIh-0005nf-DA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:03:01 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vk1-xa2b.google.com with SMTP id t189so1250652vka.10 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x8WM5DZli5VtCL+aDzafJZWaO0nK75DVyBv8FWE3PGU=; b=ssehIVPlVYEHNfxCUMDa5rxCKJrtatgKKqvv5aaQ9Z24mcWpfwmdk781uPGb0DPHS4 mpC5lkdWXKU0iD9e8hU90ze0fzFkLM5L5Dqf9UGTTg8NbxiD3WrPdCHvc01xu3BA+B6o tkSRHnC5mT+XMqDhN4PngSPRDfHy8OP2vNBB0LrrJOPDMu77WbWAPoaN9DrFf2gTmKf5 uIiUQRncBoe9PLH2HvjNzZaVHDoxQMw/0wY7jmYVFam1ufvcgd25YJzJXDAlOxOclVgI +wkM3Im/3I0uXpedmnlBLSg8uFoclYZpRBRXG4VCyrTcg67sMNHD4Yr+jvSpBlLBPIlU MyXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x8WM5DZli5VtCL+aDzafJZWaO0nK75DVyBv8FWE3PGU=; b=ZSvNRTD4H6uoE5FW+iz4oLxfG6xc93UVklNuJIyHXs3y00sKpD7R7HM2uxY7v00GON 849gwJnMxlX0m6sy+7k7zsHLvVN4JWyTAuSAjozf4CvPPNTGlLZpG/kYvLAdfDhnRlrm igTYJ3GgkYh1J/KBzKNmNPDEXLiB/P7ACKqAwZOAIvxJu2AfhOG3CzA5CpfSkI+5yRrh 3E5g4gi2J0irSs4KkJO+SZz8GGOFGC2NGsb5tes6UDYjnODkDQAdK1jxrbm3KpsX4rhI NMxfB7POkAwsib2WsA0cUS+Kc70V/BcpzfDnTJ4z7s7ST4Hh/vv0YipnIJnukM36e8oW cqaw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532zm1lyKORuoP+qPEPi/EG3mZ78ek4Addxr86Sp8qJwZgQn74Mg Edd2/Z+dYKpb8RMOZwC5epjjNfxaRzYDZpkKPcTzA8YghVI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyuEkV4YdNDbnrp2foJrb1R7PCNdtMSLeCcjl7HvSJ9AOrXBiFuYvRQtGQU2vhN3m/atnSlXQ8KoGU1z86M6Hs= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:9bc6:: with SMTP id d189mr13524490vke.54.1598547778071; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2b; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-vk1-xa2b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254312 Archived-At: On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 23:18, Stefan Kangas wrote: > >> Why do you use en dash? Does Firefox, etc. use en dash, or is it simp= ly > >> your own local customization? > > > > I do that because that is typographically correct. Other programs use > > a hyphen for historical reasons and if they all nod at each other for > > consistency then we will not have any way forward. > > I agree with the typographical point. > > But I worry that all fonts won't support en dash. Could that be the > reason why others avoid it as well? I include considerations like =E2=80=9Cmy window manager uses a font that d= oes not have coverage for General Punctuation block=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CI=E2= =80=99m running with a locale that uses an encoding where En Dash is unrepresentable=E2=80=9D in the =E2=80=9Chistorical reasons=E2=80=9D bin.