From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>,
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: master ff4de1b: Fix quoting style in Lisp comments
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 23:21:41 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_d_8XUxo3vVdwCF9PKk1=-Zb3WrHO=rmhxRZVGJ7wb6Qku8A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a0f9230b74fe15d1abf@heytings.org>
On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 19:32, Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org> wrote:
> Except that doing this throws the baby out with the bathwater. If some
> think it looks ugly, it is IMO better to make it look better, instead of
> stopping to use it. Because it's much easier to parse (as a pair) than
> double apostrophes. It's a historical accident that ASCII included paired
> {} () [] <>, but no paired quotation marks.
It’s a historical accident that the typewriter character set conflated
the opening single quote, closing single quote, apostrophe, acute
accent, and single prime. It is also a historical accident that the
grave accent ` was born as a separate spacing character at all — and
that is why I, among others, consider it ugly. Both these accidents
are canonically fixed by Unicode.
In my opinion, it is a mistake to avoid Unicode characters for the
reason that some terminals cannot display them. Teach those terminals
to map them to dumb quotes instead. Also, if Unicode quotation marks
are hard to enter, push for better keyboard layouts. (Personally, I
have all of “”‘’…–—«»°®©™≤≥§−±×÷≈ in my AltGr layer.)
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2021-09-12 22:42 ` master ff4de1b: Fix quoting style in Lisp comments Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-13 8:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-14 2:14 ` Phil Sainty
2021-09-13 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 11:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 12:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 12:36 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13 16:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-13 18:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-15 9:27 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 12:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-15 18:46 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 16:02 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-15 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 18:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-15 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 18:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-15 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-15 18:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-15 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 20:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-15 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-15 21:24 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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2021-09-18 10:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18 18:40 ` Juri Linkov
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2021-09-18 19:34 ` Stefan Kangas
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