From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>,
"Arthur Miller" <arthur.miller@live.com>,
"Emacs developers" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 22:10:22 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_d_8WfyvwaCyS2dZhuGDX3Use0H3CdmL03RJ-HdaN3xfT0Qg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o8a5flfo.fsf@gnu.org>
On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 21:01, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > I have an unconfirmed guess that some people want not only to see the
> > code but also hack it. In this use case, it is desirable for M-. to
> > take them to the actual hackable code so that any changes persist
> > across Emacs restarts and are seen by version control.
>
> But the .el.gz files that Emacs displays _are_ "hackable", in the
> sense that you can modify it and then save the results. Right?
Right… technically.
0. I[*] have an itch and go to scratch it. M-. takes me to an .el.gz
somewhere in /usr/share/emacs.
1. I want to start hacking but the buffer is read-only because (x): my
regular user does not have write access to system-wide
platform-independent files.
1a. I can switch to the hackable /home/me/src/emacs/lisp/{filename}.el
right away while lamenting that M-. did not take me right there, or
1b. I can press C-x C-q to remove the readonlyness. For the sake of
argument, let’s see where this leads.
2. I make a change and want to save it. I cannot because (x).
2a. Again, at this point, I can C-x C-w
/home/you/src/emacs/lisp/{filename}.el, cursing under my breath.
Alternatively,
2b. Since I have admin rights, I can take ownership or loosen access
rights on the file so I can save it. Again, let’s say I do this just
to prove a point.
3. I finish my work and want to do a self-review before committing.
But /usr/share/emacs is not under version control and I did not make a
backup and now I still have to go to my git clone.
[*]: for a suitable value of “I”. If I frequently wanted to make
changes to Emacs proper, that would be my reasoning. As it is, I
merely project it onto people who do.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-10 15:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-08 15:40 Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-08 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-08 18:53 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-08 20:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-08 22:43 ` dick
2021-08-08 23:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-09 0:43 ` dick
2021-08-09 3:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-09 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-09 18:33 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-09 18:49 ` dick
2021-08-09 22:11 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-10 8:24 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10 8:31 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-09 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-09 22:14 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-10 11:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 8:10 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 13:43 ` Yuri Khan
2021-08-10 14:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 15:10 ` Yuri Khan [this message]
2021-08-10 15:39 ` dick
2021-08-10 15:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-10 17:31 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 17:25 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-10 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 18:06 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-10 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 20:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-11 2:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-11 5:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-11 13:42 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-08-11 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-11 18:21 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-08-12 5:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 17:35 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-10 17:24 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10 17:22 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-09 6:52 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-09 11:50 ` dick
2021-08-09 15:27 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19 9:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-19 20:24 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19 21:43 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19 21:47 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19 21:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-20 0:21 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-20 21:36 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 1:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-21 2:46 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 3:12 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 6:48 ` tomas
2021-08-21 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 7:19 ` symlinks and W32 [was: Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory] tomas
2021-08-21 14:15 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 19:12 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 14:34 ` Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 19:10 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 20:25 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-25 10:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-25 22:13 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26 9:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-26 15:58 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-20 10:23 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-08-20 12:47 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-23 9:14 ` Max Brieiev
2021-08-24 21:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-25 11:13 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-25 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-25 14:55 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-25 17:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-26 0:16 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26 4:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-26 15:38 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26 18:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-26 21:40 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-25 22:29 ` Arthur Miller
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-08-12 2:44 No Wayman
2021-08-12 12:41 ` dick
2021-08-12 14:48 ` No Wayman
2021-08-12 16:24 ` dick
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