From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs raison d'etre Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 17:46:49 +0700 Message-ID: References: <5230692c-c665-a330-7a12-e59fa25d97dd@gmail.com> <70bb51fd-447d-928c-4d69-1c9673a44471@online.de> <871rnnvmdx.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pnb7sira.fsf@red-bean.com> <06bcddd4-6991-e4f7-e944-93de14af263d@yandex.ru> <87h7wjsd8o.fsf@red-bean.com> <20897f01-122d-7f91-eac2-70f5ad75796f@yandex.ru> <87d077qfmm.fsf@red-bean.com> <874ksglvsd.fsf@red-bean.com> <83y2pscgjj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="70008"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Karl Fogel , Emacs developers , =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=C3=B6hler?= , Richard Stallman , Dmitry Gutov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 16 12:47:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZuMF-000I6I-AY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 May 2020 12:47:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49628 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZuME-0001gK-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 May 2020 06:47:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37660) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZuLQ-0000y2-5G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2020 06:47:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vs1-xe2d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2d]:36323) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZuLP-0006OL-AA; Sat, 16 May 2020 06:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vs1-xe2d.google.com with SMTP id l15so894359vsr.3; Sat, 16 May 2020 03:47:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VcRfwANssQxPF5z84NggZQLDQSsFrSFIgdvc0+P6oRA=; b=QWYxR4a+e6CwPsQqXRasy8prM69l3QPh4UJ6rUaga8HCgvi42pH3xeJEEfYm5rgTLY XN701GCSDGso5tFqC8cZ4LZTDrj6ehApMxLbf/iINs4WW88JxIgJwTwhQGe9UZOQTs2p QIrTID+JsYjKdIpHvGnJhM8lVb5pMgeIPdh+lCJsTGOGs7Iv3BvpJ3oH+6N2njDXGnq2 AoWGgMwKg26gATPzeQ/4/yGgVbIfkrkEiFmHpodCKJuY6iR3biEowIc4RJtpJxAfKOkR 9pyf+m+3F/aiJVHOr3h6nXAEZieVBc9QY0bnFAO61aEH2Ezxi9iZAFBCFlyc4xxmGVlC mxaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VcRfwANssQxPF5z84NggZQLDQSsFrSFIgdvc0+P6oRA=; b=kWJpo16YpuLcrUBUp0rJxddaAokoyZ1R976tj1u01Vm8J/T64/kKrTU0jV8FJs5toQ eaVZTe8UQYsU0/oSDiYA4D+EHt6Do12AaWmtigAzxfnVpJXMek1nVh1yEKJH+k9XRWoT 9duyPT+gf1BiX8zTbjN/j+Nv2o2R/bl3GqbulCofbaZija3H16jJx1hHDDMDvQW3tWq2 RNTX6xvWyBpO9NRJg3ZJfxQBbukjGOiFT4UPdF9himFoLCkdeuO9uVnnbMxWs2EXSicp wY5hfjvSUFl4FSCUFAga/L/N6biyJBZW2GJz4ESyk5zAH9obapESWdkdEikssJTpvmuX nNLw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532AY1a2dVL4GTgIQO6gpQHqTN/hhJavTlMkmEwCD3dYmvxbnNp7 KIif7XokoqHbX5Ee/dZsTLTVF6bz+mQHt2DbwQyRKnzRsD4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJximzh3Gph71VX+0v9t+FPUx5xqZ05oQFz2lxXTSugkkdmjGa1JGpuURvLo6daHdeGodjfVKN/Z7BsH+4Vkq5c= X-Received: by 2002:a67:1342:: with SMTP id 63mr5642467vst.70.1589626021204; Sat, 16 May 2020 03:47:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83y2pscgjj.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2d; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-vs1-xe2d.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250472 Archived-At: On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 17:37, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > We also have "ESC ESC ESC". Yes. It takes a greater degree of impatience to discover, and it is somewhat more aggressive in its effect than C-g. We also have =E2=80=98q=E2=80=99 in any modes derived from special-mode.