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From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
To: Richard Copley <rcopley@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs Development <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Image transformations
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:16:02 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_d_8W2fVt_Mspe+XH84bb-kMDVjcFZU6iRPX9yxorsaK9NVw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM58ohs11vEJJAMbJ9b6-3toc1bbpLWKqbN6D1FN7i+kP0ufw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 7:53 PM Richard Copley <rcopley@gmail.com> wrote:

>     > Thirdly, the homogeneous matrix is compact and uniform, and makes
>     > it easy to compose and invert (undo) transformations.
>
>     So are/do the attributes.
>
> I think you're underestimating the difficulty of that part. Here's a concrete
> example. Suppose the user wants to apply two transformations,
>
> 1. Stretch by factor 2 in the x direction, then rotate clockwise by 45 degrees,
>    then translate to the right by 100 pixels.
>
> 2. Stretch by factor 0.5 in the x direction, then rotate clockwise by 90 degrees,
>    then translate left by 100 pixels.
>
> Calculating the resulting matrix might be a little tricky to get right, but with
> some experimentation you'll get there. Calculating the resulting shear,
> rotation, scale and translation is much more difficult to conceptualize. You
> would first have to calculate the matrix in any case. Then you would need to do
> Singular Value Decomposition.

If I were to propose a high-level format for describing
transformations in homogeneous coordinates, it wouldn’t be a flat
structure of rotation, shear, scale and translation. I’d suggest a
list of elementary transformations, taken in reverse order of
application, where each element can be one of:

* ('rotate phi)

  {{ cos(phi)  -sin(phi)  0 },
   { sin(phi)   cos(phi)  0 },
   {        0          0  1 }}

* ('scale s)  or ('scale sx sy)

  {{ s 0 0 },    {{ sx  0 0 },
   { 0 s 0 },     {  0 sy 0 },
   { 0 0 1 }}     {  0  0 1 }}

* ('skew ax ay)              or  ('skew ax)

  {{ 1        tan(ax)  0 },      {{ 1  tan(ax)  0 },
   { tan(ay)        1  0 },       { 0        1  0 },
   {       0        0  1 }}       { 0        0  1 }}

* ('translate dx dy)  or  ('translate dx)

  {{ 1 0 dx },            {{ 1 0 dx },
   { 0 1 dy },             { 0 1  0 },
   { 0 0 1  }}             { 0 0  1 }}

* and maybe, for users with advanced needs and a good understanding of maths,
  ('matrix a b c d tx ty)

  {{ a c tx },
   { b d ty },
   { 0 0  1 }}

(An attentive reader will notice that the above data model is lifted
almost verbatim from CSS Transforms.)



  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-14 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-11  5:10 Image transformations Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-11 20:02 ` Alan Third
2019-06-12 15:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-12 22:07     ` Alan Third
2019-06-12 22:15       ` Alan Third
2019-06-13  4:16       ` Alp Aker
2019-06-13  5:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13  9:19           ` Alp Aker
2019-06-13 13:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 15:57               ` Alp Aker
2019-06-13 16:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 19:00                   ` Richard Copley
2019-06-13 19:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-14 10:45                     ` Alp Aker
2019-06-14 10:55                       ` Richard Copley
2019-06-14 11:45                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-06-14 11:59                         ` Alp Aker
2019-06-13 16:12           ` Alan Third
2019-06-13 17:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 19:35               ` Richard Copley
2019-06-13  5:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 16:58         ` Alan Third
2019-06-13 17:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 19:27             ` Alan Third
2019-06-13 19:39               ` Alan Third
2019-06-13 19:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 22:26                 ` Alan Third
2019-06-14  7:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-14  9:57                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 10:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-14 11:21                         ` Richard Copley
2019-06-14 12:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-14 12:49                             ` Richard Copley
2019-06-14 14:16                               ` Yuri Khan [this message]
2019-06-14 14:43                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-14 15:55                                 ` Richard Copley
2019-06-15 11:00                                   ` Alan Third
2019-06-15 11:34                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 10:42                     ` Alan Third
2019-06-15 11:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-16 15:22                         ` Alan Third
2019-06-16 16:34                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-17 21:13                             ` Alan Third
2019-06-19 17:56                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-24 17:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-24 19:50                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-25  2:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-25  3:28                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-25  4:34                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-25 14:43                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-25 15:35                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-26  0:28                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-06-26 15:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-27  3:37                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-06-27 13:13                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-25 18:33                                 ` Alan Third
2019-06-25 18:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-27 13:59                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-28 18:36                                       ` Alan Third
2019-06-28 19:50                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-29 11:55                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-29 19:51                                             ` Alan Third
2019-06-29 19:49                                           ` Alan Third
2019-06-29 19:53                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-30 14:38                                               ` Alan Third
2019-06-30 15:24                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-25 19:40                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-26  6:10                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-26  6:46                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-26  8:06                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-26  8:23                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-26  8:24                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-26  8:33                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-26  8:58                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-26  9:13                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-26 10:23                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-26 14:08                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-26  8:32                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-29 21:05                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-30 15:12                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-30 19:10                                               ` Alan Third
2019-07-01 14:55                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18 11:01                       ` Tak Kunihiro
2019-06-13 17:41           ` Eli Zaretskii

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