From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Multi-line input Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 23:24:05 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87fvds2r5i.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87zjbokx0t.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <546E1845.2010301@dancol.org> <87oarjklgc.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417796664 19572 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 16:24:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 16:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Colascione , Emacs developers , Juri Linkov To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 17:24:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwvfy-0003Fq-Er for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:24:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51257 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwvfx-0008Lm-NN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:24:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwvft-0008Ir-4s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:24:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwvfq-0005mK-MJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:24:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c]:35373) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwvfq-0005m6-HS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:24:06 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id tr6so993363ieb.31 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:24:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xP4UllfjFk31ezFZwN5thD5gR7NaitUHMHBycmC7O0o=; b=md75VmMxH9SLPYRsJuBDc4Sv9gLgyb1G7vXcfIwDqMZbsOfu+RSkslK54K1WT97Qej 31D6O0PqUsb+jZQMqYw9OSKFOcB/5pEizKgojrd3bqlxndtNH/s5RhZQsiMV2dYe7uB4 eSfVh5tlEs4kiPG1cOydKGmoLNYdjgj3gL6ebjwnr6tn+qGdBuohchD3KxKVNu1hU+s0 fko64l8cyE7z9TyS1azofOK1PBS5enMqckFwg0thP1+HtCfkRjO4IDfryptOqNnIZScP jp6/PH/HgTKATlhCD8WhJJvmIyh1eZS7SNgMkXHA3cBLUqxfxqwSOyOG/huFWhw3kUjq lt2w== X-Received: by 10.107.169.170 with SMTP id f42mr8753506ioj.24.1417796645479; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:24:05 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.107.48.82 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 08:24:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: vmEJR5Q68O-YC4dTDoYSfLeVLQo X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178950 Archived-At: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Stefan Monnier w= rote: >> Other problematic place where S-RET could help to insert a newline >> is shell input. > > As mentioned earlier, I'm not convinced S-RET is a great idea, since > I think it's more beneficial to get people to learn about C-q. C-q is one thing, S-RET is another. It *is* a great idea. All Internet chat programs have standardized on it =E2=80=94 Enter sends the current contents of the message entry area, Shift+Enter adds a newline. (Some provide a user preference to swap these.) And shell prompts and Emacs minibuffer are basically chats with the user on one side and the interpreter on the other.