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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255771 Archived-At: On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 23:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Eli> Is that because we don't know how to query GTK for the theme= s default > > > Eli> colors? > > > > > > If by 'we' you mean Emacs, then yes. (I don=CA=BCt know how either, a= nd I > > > find the GTK docs unhelpful). > > > > Some time ago someone over at Bugzilla (Firefox=E2=80=99s bug tracker) = said > > it=E2=80=99s generally not possible to query about that. > > Why, doesn't GTK have the default color for text and another for the > window background? It does, but it encapsulates them. You don=E2=80=99t say =E2=80=9Ctell me t= he colors so I could draw things=E2=80=9D, you say =E2=80=9Cdraw things for me=E2=80= =9D.