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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279679 Archived-At: On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 21:36, Alexandre Garreau wr= ote: > > Keys are not ASCII characters. > > They can be related. You could set up a keymap layout where each key is > capital, and pressing shift makes them lowercase, at the opposite of the > normal working, or even something more weird. Hey, millions of people deal daily with layouts where pressing the key Q yields the character =D0=B9. In Emacs, one has to mess with function-key-map so =D0=B9 translates to q which buries Dired. In an ideal world, Dired would bind not the character q but the key Q, and it would just work no matter the layout.