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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274973 Archived-At: On Sat, 18 Sept 2021 at 15:27, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Not at all. Both =E2=80=98 and =E2=80=99 are slanted to the right, mak= ing it impossible > > to distinguish backquote from quote. > What kind of font slants =E2=80=98 to the right? Pretty much all of them. Liberation Mono, to name just one. There are fonts that render =E2=80=98 as a mirrored =E2=80=99, but they are= a minority. > Why is that a reasonable rendering? Because that=E2=80=99s how they were traditionally rendered with printing presses, and handwritten before that. > And how do you distinguish between =E2=80=98 and =E2=80=99 with that font= ? In many fonts, the opening quote looks like a comma turned 180=C2=B0 (tail up and to the right) and raised to the top of the cell. The closing quote looks like a comma (tail down and to the left) just raised. With serif fonts, this is like small 6 and 9 shapes; with sans-serif fonts, the tail is thinner than the start of stroke. For me, the difference is quite visible even on a non-HiDPI display; I disagree that they are impossible to distinguish.