From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Hangs on Filesystem Operations on Stale NFS Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:35:23 +0700 Message-ID: References: <1727545582523435cab149c2bc857b40@alexander.shukaev.name> <1250e91f-c46a-68f8-d5f9-0c4f7e40a5a9@Alexander.Shukaev.name> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1528893557 10588 195.159.176.226 (13 Jun 2018 12:39:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: emacs@alexander.shukaev.name Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 13 14:39:13 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fT53R-0002fu-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 14:39:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33879 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fT55Y-0003X6-AO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:41:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44785) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fT4zx-00075N-Nl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:35:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fT4zw-0002mo-EE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:35:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22f]:43463) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fT4zw-0002lM-7X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:35:36 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id t133-v6so2129183oif.10 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:35:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dV6O0L3QqH/nF9Ym62zhqKp0mu+LEeO9l3eajLCnaoM=; b=KNs7CpaYQksTJP4jpfONiQy4oKKI0uDgse9EwVLuKBZK0bwDypxlEBzXIDuU4pXshE Sws3eUFRnf1EBRKP7Mw3Sa1Pty9D1WuuCGDtCop8gKgu3jrqNMGjaLwdWazMXXq1C8OD IXfZqSBWypO/v0XmN1QYVlzAeTa8TSCdbPzgvFncdwaWr83BbyYHErG2u4EzTxrodQ0/ 3q4WHbkY5Iz23XpIT1ETgilIq4dV3WVGifihJukNO6I8inrXiHIXYXAh2FvhlAmJNCRA jNXAS9am8NgKjQmWEfJpDQ+hswG82Pf5A6q9PoSOVXF3Bk3Pt1Gm1pVIsP6vx/icY+Fx DCWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dV6O0L3QqH/nF9Ym62zhqKp0mu+LEeO9l3eajLCnaoM=; b=Lg69krP1F2rGNbLfhWwVDGJ9CU+tj+QFBSjX+1FyNXfS+45b4Me3AYyhXzuFOvSUGf 1958PquN6VkXVeVLrnMMBEk9MTgu7mA7H5o7F6aCO8a1gZ1HvQycL7pHonYLlb5nDTLx 8+oRql7zt/WWWeLgWb6sD1kl9+teyOvtwAmcif1iUCgGPBiVWiObHKzpuDyOHiwtVDxY i7qOi5YssM3jGT4nZAk7qTq8KudVvvuOBiBhyJDpdroKeqNwQ3D4E4HkPfD0OVsXOLsj LM255wSZvmfScONZVQbGSgMVaJk5B+rO7wWrzbUW1z04JmolAABTqoroN6WRYa+oNdO6 8rFg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2vuIzv7XlqDopZoB2wQDGEMU3nUdDSGPG2bpgu9GVlXt5PG8pF EXdiacSValtWVzvzHn4QqezzwyEgl6Qtn7Tt2zMfRA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIlbiMI7hSmcftbX9UPBWgu3YPWNEBVkbNGjf+VhLS4q3gWnMzfC96fIy/Hd04mmxXUbhafHgkGAWQuXloJPFM= X-Received: by 2002:aca:4bd2:: with SMTP id y201-v6mr4422197oia.50.1528893335413; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:35:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1250e91f-c46a-68f8-d5f9-0c4f7e40a5a9@Alexander.Shukaev.name> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226287 Archived-At: On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:46 PM Alexander Shukaev wrote: > [=E2=80=A6] the only > way to time this case out reliably is to spawn a child which attempts to > perform 'stat' and is then killed by the parent if timed out (similar to > how 'lsof' does it). I'm sure such a complex technique would be > unacceptable for Emacs. Isn=E2=80=99t that what TRAMP does behind the scene, though?