From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: set sgml-xml-mode to true in some modes derived from sgml-mode Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 23:56:26 +0700 Message-ID: References: <874jysi2xd.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26584"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Yilkal Argaw , Emacs Devel To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 18:57:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeAM-0006n3-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 18:57:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56026 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeAL-0003LH-Co for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 12:57:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44250) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJe9J-0001p0-EW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 12:56:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x429.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::429]:42525) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJe9H-00053M-U5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 12:56:41 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x429.google.com with SMTP id z12so404394wrs.9 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc; bh=ECIias5TfFlZ/7ge0X+vPyiaaoEIjDmR5yjzWYB8vFo=; b=h5e2zw8pp0eNeKA7DOuhJV8RIKyxVEC7zDKXEQH+sEoztx6McTBkCrg45iklVQnc+/ fsmuBb+U+jKFuilgrjWoMK69zaFABJ4vlAOUaV0AwCDmS75P+H8Gvzyvv7pjR8Rwplbv F//iCVyrLhW6viniiXr6pLTtpGPJ4EXwHS7ukh+2JvLtPCP0TdECJplB/CPCbDTo6dyN JNywqo2xbZn7OBcn8Fnr9dzIB5F8gaheuUWCtGCpAN5DKy+FrRP5HvCmNJ3c1p7odqTv VUXtlmLMdRuVdVvUqTWdopl4+C8SzC+ePb1LWut63PDp2w6YFoXXSSRtj4JQ3e/GMZ/+ qP5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=ECIias5TfFlZ/7ge0X+vPyiaaoEIjDmR5yjzWYB8vFo=; b=sYGvS2n4e2JeUJcyNY5bFTnz2QXHttPCt1hYpFPIrrPmWo9xI9veYov+VBwE2N7PHX LDMn95otu+LXOSV0wzAoJVR57uFj69ORE1kyTFncxh3YScFd+Cd4+VLX/aeQjS0DGgHd C1zbXRwqsHKJxrkwux6bhBa33mmiQ646BhMGuL74574f4VowqzYAfdrpcBZawOEziCGx 9oJ7d1Pap6cLAhEz9YcLhC6hYyZ2fmDmr+hPf3Bj0m/e2hsVAXhK4DoZ1ltrdOSQ3fZh pbwak+43eZXlkDU72xeFZ8B7TB3xqktnrBJiFoq8+mdZrmEecA/67tmdy0Bd8tol3y0X 5r/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo1fFaEYbC9Ej2Cs4HET2k5KXX+h7iY+j4cK6xbn6D8BB+uhgG+E BlkbSrgdoibl2YNAs9dOWjfHLNo9MI65WsXI16o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR7Z+8SyfRmbyaseNmEtA0nwWjKJS86c3gF5Gyb8KrLvd8SuK90G2xwzO22f2TAJdi3DL9d4XfR11aR12idTEo4= X-Received: by 2002:adf:d1e2:0:b0:21d:d40b:d816 with SMTP id g2-20020adfd1e2000000b0021dd40bd816mr1953247wrd.682.1659632198099; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 09:56:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <874jysi2xd.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::429; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x429.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293080 Archived-At: On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 at 19:57, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > Yilkal Argaw writes: > > > While trying to use emacs to edit html files I noticed how the > > sgml-tag functions which uses skeletons to insert tags does not > > insert a closing tag for some tags like "
  • " this behaviour changes > > by changing the variable "sgml-xml-mode" to a non nil value. Would it > > not be better to turn this variable to true some of the derived modes > > like html-mode and xml-mode. > > You don't want the skeleton to insert
  • in html-mode -- For some values of =E2=80=9Cyou=E2=80=9D, you certainly do. Specifically, you[^*] want in your[^**] HTML all closing tags that are permitted by the HTML syntax.

    , , , but not or . (You[^*] also want quotes around all your[^**] attribute values.) [^*]: I. [^**]: my. > pretending that HTML is XML isn't recommended. Not arguing with that, although XHTML was a good idea and I=E2=80=99m sad i= t didn=E2=80=99t play out. (To OP: You might like a different method of automation. E.g. my primary way of writing HTML is: I enter a tag name such as =E2=80=9Cli=E2= =80=9D, press Tab, and Yasnippet expands it into
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    • . Or I mark a region, overwrite it with a tag name like =E2=80=9Ccode=E2=80=9D, press Tab, and it= gets yanked back, surrounded with =E2=80=A6.)