From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Pip Cet Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why mouse-1/2/3 ? Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:47:44 +0000 Message-ID: References: <871roayjlm.fsf@yahoo.com> <87v9lljmxv.fsf@yahoo.com> <20200427094039.GD30150@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="52496"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Po Lu , ndame , Drew Adams , Emacs developers To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 27 11:49:40 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jT0OS-000DVk-3e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 11:49:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35366 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jT0OR-0000dl-47 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 05:49:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36394) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jT0NC-0007WX-QC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 05:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jT0NC-0002Au-3L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 05:48:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ot1-x32b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::32b]:37103) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jT0NB-00029W-Mg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 05:48:21 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id z17so25155733oto.4 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 02:48:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/L/i5x2rbWVMVmBjyc86or0N9UEu54ZTE7K+GXdZ1fw=; b=siTS5krStadugzxMWy0L51iyo9OQMLAaeRsQPA+rBXAjGUMhR7afAfvSL7OhF+poBu fnMV1f7sLcZjuZ1yb1NK1tx4ibXEIuiID1nB/rrUCsBhi21Dc5TUl3Lc7Kd4kvVPylvV wq+1oK+UByWvL+X/M1rAkIJqODlGSDlq5Ce0uMq07c02Dag3D2ZRmYM1PD7sQVYB+Ezq A+XXRY2d2WiCz0hFXPlXGpTqRRVvfJeSPw2vNfi6ackXZ/uLZad7guQh+3eabu6MMVyX UImWC9w5IRLkZaKG+KxLwMKP+iOpFw8bhHc/C7c60P/+akZ1SqfqQRo3OM0oybXPAMpA Owhg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/L/i5x2rbWVMVmBjyc86or0N9UEu54ZTE7K+GXdZ1fw=; b=JQI8xVyqzGZ9nD51Sg05SXBsp+byMt3QesJbvIpf3vm6lDzF1LuDzf4vZ2MKIwM03w vLGQx2q/WI7cWjFzx0SVdzCPJa8BFCzNQ2xGUprFMaYeKZGsc5iOG/ypa7Q6T2Tdc2Ej wHtDw80osawHCuYEqzeV8Jg2grNn8/bykpw6mgJ65iWlYoj5swUuFRzGBNNeEJRZ6p19 Xwyg09buvSfb8irb/4QZKmUtyRTN8LD0ynRh8OD842G6DoUeXXI+kV+wy22MqHIAnM8M 68cK6GIZHF725RaoVVDo8RddyOkOMGJBcxUzZbX3RvqDDUWcLZGnBvbUxSWG2QnMKAk4 +PzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuamBqwBzWuNL4mHndSqrH9+c71tBsX8rjcd15CCXk+cC5madjep oC2V/WnLxV6qA+zZd0UfCKRTN4xtKfv/XZKMlv7ZtZJu X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLEeiR63ZDbEq1MQANKdFNlN0tLo9yit3OdYA95e9jRhASltaFRIBfenZvEZWizSEJRpHOgvrZ5zdUjoSRm9Es= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:5f04:: with SMTP id f4mr1133604oti.154.1587980900671; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 02:48:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20200427094039.GD30150@tuxteam.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::32b; envelope-from=pipcet@gmail.com; helo=mail-ot1-x32b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: [-] PROGRAM ABORT : Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::32b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247897 Archived-At: On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:42 AM wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 05:30:04PM +0800, Po Lu wrote: > > >> > Why emacs calls these mouse-1, 2 and 3? Wouldn't it be more user > > >> friendly to say > > >> > left mouse button, middle mouse button and right mouse button? > > [lots of explanations...] As far as I can tell, we're missing one explanation: mice might be on their way out, people use touch-sensitive surfaces (both the sensible input-only kind and the silly kind where you can't see what you're interacting with because your finger's in the way) and a single-finger tap (on whatever) stands for mouse-1. In my case, double and triple finger taps translate to mouse-2 and mouse-3 (but I think the more usual mapping is for a long tap to mean mouse-3 and no mouse-2), and that's easy enough to remember.