From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Mastro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: project.el semantics Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:26:35 -0800 Message-ID: References: <86pp1j4ejm.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <86twqrww0u.fsf_-_@stephe-leake.org> <563EA9B9.5080404@yandex.ru> <86vb9dufs0.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <563F4915.1080008@yandex.ru> <867flrbksb.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <56409F2D.9060300@yandex.ru> <86mvun9gz7.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <56415902.90103@yandex.ru> <86h9ktah9x.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <56429025.3070008@yandex.ru> <86r3jw4yrf.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <564340DC.5020008@yandex.ru> <564374E7.50600@yandex.ru> <5643B749.8030600@yandex.ru> <5643F79F.9080103@yandex.ru> <5644D232.6020002@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447352835 23262 80.91.229.3 (12 Nov 2015 18:27:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 18:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Leake , Dmitry Gutov To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 12 19:27:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwwaM-0001Qk-Ay for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:27:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49002 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwwaL-00027O-Lx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:27:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49192) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwwaG-00022J-Lp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:26:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwwaF-0003nt-R6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:26:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yk0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::236]:36649) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwwaF-0003nV-N8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:26:55 -0500 Original-Received: by ykdr82 with SMTP id r82so105979567ykd.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:26:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=P7v3S96RGGhGqZayDTClie6HcqS/YkGy0LwPdYQy28Q=; b=GjUASMAdX/DLae4KRzVkIWCuEs1rcNoGOclrrPYLmc01O2lkUabk4c9oljUlWdDQrH TB0RsaLK/iuB6IblVLnyBx9gXiMawS3NxrvLfehg80l/YjTYKMTfBPSmTT6nM2cNbBcD 09anQcXT+6BFGIMbAkrmJUYMcO2aKNu34nBMZfj1hGbSG+lPedr21uVJozMhhcC7mAf6 EhAq7xn/el8g2apzA6ROHn26TKVhiHd1tik7WwnxelJrzilYe6yQbsv+yAvAl3bF4u5Y LJBsl1jfz8RdTE5XkNBEdwqe4/5uGnjw2C1fIWhT+lPglgB8UQ6i7V2svdJ7tNv7un4n R3rw== X-Received: by 10.13.219.87 with SMTP id d84mr17981179ywe.91.1447352815212; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:26:55 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.37.75.70 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:26:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194270 Archived-At: John Wiegley wrote: >> Or alternatively, we keep the new commands, as well as elisp and etags >> implementations, but document them briefly, and declare the extension >> interface (currently, xref-find-function), to be >> private/experimental/work-in-progress. > > Also perfectly fine, whichever you think is best for xref.el. I'm OK with > "trial features" appearing in a release, so long as we note that they may > change without notice and shouldn't be too much relied upon. Speaking as a user[1], I hope you'll take this route rather than removing project.el and xref.el. Emacs 25.1 would be less useful to me without them. I also hope Dmitry will continue to work on them, despite the frustrating dynamics. [1] Admittedly a somewhat unusual user in that I'm reading emacs-devel. -- john