From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?VHXhuqVuLUFuaCBOZ3V54buFbg==?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tree-sitter and emacs-devel Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:57:00 +0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="34066"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 03 16:58:00 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jKNlg-0008lO-Ib for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 16:58:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56652 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jKNlf-00067D-K1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 10:57:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45879) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jKNl4-0005FR-4q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 10:57:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jKNl1-0006P8-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 10:57:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-x429.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::429]:40243) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jKNl0-0006Og-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 10:57:19 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-x429.google.com with SMTP id c20so3583857pfi.7 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 07:57:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1WNG29tbcCdXf7LpURRUql56i6P5iDOwEVM6+zqqIYY=; b=tlrBQr2xP1/TbHMpQFi2dfx2MLJwOGyCry3F2MGMnGJwaxArZrKz0obftRxyOQsP5G PV2JaOCQG3nzJqlWtiflnBNPuyEEiVAKo7tIp+Eb4IpD8OttX3sZhJJWP1VnJrKtEaho Dn6MM9x4mxVFibipKZbzEcu7mCWPzlKW53Q95WcBWhEHLMDN6srC8Bnzu1t2OSu3E9Rj NB6xA1MkWByDKfmN5fNSAP2bTnmU6qUo9tRqPpj20Wi7ix2tz1wcKHAy8E6330cGpoj8 3uEsQqigTyT6qvbhK8bdB2vrT4TWhmeM+cCXRAWXopCuUXjHy3Hx3mhAl568LwZJ3Ldu i5mw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1WNG29tbcCdXf7LpURRUql56i6P5iDOwEVM6+zqqIYY=; b=HQwpJJZUSIXlUP6jJFMxYbl2xDXzbpmPfAqy95nZLuXD7mb6M6DHFbbyM0Wm+3ngJS IYVWV02k58znW9ZAVPALObqLk3qSWDPFqa6/2BVb67MCAenu6qQXZnHkYm5/upObBOmW 0tf7M8WDRj+fTQDtRSrNBAmvVadKud6iERR2ADy8ZWZn8t3q/qvjfJSiLqKGqfgdYq7o crSGEOo3iSQQmgQxFly+hp/Ks1nAnopFiUhHKFJTU2kA8MRyYzEFwpP7WifZ9HROenXe fbIYxRwo/OoxD6e/Mc4u/Lpz9y4vKavTkk+EDKYBlk3Pv8yz9sAFjaHbsL7W4K3dxwt/ 1htQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYcn910pK60VBLME5rAxWwH/BFL7GVnbaonk1Rhf3WjEtbc+ggy leXKTN6R9Xez3hI3lJUhZh4PAV4/vdMnrl/hTrQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypI81OM36NtV6gUvegSFoBaUQrGYRFQtwlFMAEF41HZWxa86bxKwXppC1d16z+azKlvoYgpqAWyDWCfKIEzgvF8= X-Received: by 2002:a63:9210:: with SMTP id o16mr8888697pgd.442.1585925837401; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 07:57:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::429 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246331 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:02 PM Stefan Monnier w= rote: > > FWIW, re-reading over the discussions around emacs-tree-sitter of the > last few days, I must say I'm not proud: if I were a contributor to > tree-sitter and/or emacs-tree-sitter, all this squabbling over how > tree-sitter "should" work (from people who have not been involved in > either of those and don't have any practical experience of how it > performs or why it's designed that way) would make me run away screaming > and promising myself never to come back to that mad house. > For me personally, the discussions were ok, if a bit noisy. But yes, the overall atmosphere/style can feel discouraging to newcomers. -- Tu=E1=BA=A5n-Anh Nguy=E1=BB=85n Software Engineer