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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319493 Archived-At: --00000000000012db1406190d2db2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > My suggestion is: For everything that depends on AUCTeX, prefix it with > auctex-, and for others which work with built-in mode as well, take tex- > as prefix. Rationale: it makes things easier to find once you do 'M-x > list-packages RET'. > Copy. So maybe "auctex-numbering" (or "auctex-latex-numbering"?) and "auctex-latexmk-continuous"? (unless these are considered suitable for upstreaming, in which case the point is moot) > >> I'd be happy with whatever makes the most sense, but figured submitting > to > >> ELPA would make them readily available without introducing additional > >> burden on the AUCTeX maintainers. > > > > I'll let the AUCTeX maintainers decide. That being said, I am sure > > they'd always appreciate a helping hand in general. > > Disussion about upstreaming parts of Paul's code would be the next step, > I think, based on user feedback and request. Let me know what, if anything, I should do to help with this. > Reg. helping hands: Always > welcome, but I really wish that people take over which actually use > LaTeX/AUCTeX/RefTeX on a regular basis. I can tell for Tassilo and > myself that we don't use LaTeX anymore, and that for many years now. > I qualify as a long-time daily user of latex/auctex (and until fairly recently, reftex), but am ignorant of tex more broadly. Happy to help how I can. > (I tried to help as far as I could). > > (Thanks again!) --00000000000012db1406190d2db2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My suggestion is: For everything that depends on AUCTeX, prefix it with
auctex-, and for others which work with built-in mode as well, take tex- as prefix.=C2=A0 Rationale: it makes things easier to find once you do '= ;M-x
list-packages RET'.

Copy.=C2=A0 So = maybe "auctex-numbering" (or "auctex-latex-numbering"?)= and "auctex-latexmk-continuous"?=C2=A0 (unless these are conside= red suitable for upstreaming, in which case the point is moot)
= =C2=A0
>> I'd be happy with whatever makes the most sense, but figured s= ubmitting to
>> ELPA would make them readily available without introducing additio= nal
>> burden on the AUCTeX maintainers.
>
> I'll let the AUCTeX maintainers decide.=C2=A0 That being said, I a= m sure
> they'd always appreciate a helping hand in general.

Disussion about upstreaming parts of Paul's code would be the next step= ,
I think, based on user feedback and request.=C2=A0

Let me know what, if anything, I should do to help with this.
=C2=A0
Reg. helping hands: Always
welcome, but I really wish that people take over which actually use
LaTeX/AUCTeX/RefTeX on a regular basis.=C2=A0 I can tell for Tassilo and myself that we don't use LaTeX anymore, and that for many years now.

I qualify as a long-time daily user of la= tex/auctex (and until fairly recently, reftex), but am ignorant of tex more= broadly.=C2=A0 Happy to help how I can.
=C2=A0
(I tried to help as far as I could).<= br>
=C2=A0
(Thanks again!)
=C2=A0<= /div>
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