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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307372 Archived-At: --00000000000017268d05ff857e9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Jul 2, 2023, 12:30 Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 02/07/2023 18:45, Spencer Baugh wrote: > > > It might be handy to have an Emacs-specific keyboard, with whole > > sequences (such as M-x/C-x/C-c/C-h) assigned to single buttons. > > > > > > It seems to me that toolbar would be the place for such things, rather > > than something platform specific. > > > > Actually we could even have toolbar buttons for > > event-apply-control-modifier and so on. Then a normal keyboard could > > work very well. > > > > Although moving the toolbar to the bottom of the screen on Android (as I > > saw some feature mentioned) would help with that. And increasing the > > size of the icons... > > Yep, you've just described platform-specific UI details. > Not necessarily: other touchscreen, no-keyboard platforms could use them too. > --00000000000017268d05ff857e9f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023, 12:30 Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> wrote:
On 02/07/2023 18:45, Spencer Baugh wrote:

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0It might be handy to have an Emacs-specific keyboar= d, with whole
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sequences (such as M-x/C-x/C-c/C-h) assigned to sin= gle buttons.
>
>
> It seems to me that toolbar would be the place for such things, rather=
> than something platform specific.
>
> Actually we could even have toolbar buttons for
> event-apply-control-modifier and so on. Then a normal keyboard could <= br> > work very well.
>
> Although moving the toolbar to the bottom of the screen on Android (as= I
> saw some feature mentioned) would help with that. And increasing the <= br> > size of the icons...

Yep, you've just described platform-specific UI details.
Not necessarily: other touchscreen, no-keyb= oard platforms could use them too.
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