Let me try to put it another way: as I envisage the whole process 1.- On startup: a) Get the startup file from [ .emacs, .emacs.d/init.el, .config/emacs/init.el ] or whatever set of files we decide and load it b) if custom-file is not nil and wasn't already loaded, load custom-file. If is was already loaded, maybe tell the user (???) 2.- When saving the customisations if custom-file is not nil, save them there else save them in the startup file whatever it is AFAIK, the only new thing is to include 1b) in the emacs code, because 1a) and 2) are already in the code (it's how emacs behaves today, right?) So someone not defining custom-file would not see anything changing (long-standing behaviour respected) Just my .2 cents, /PA On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 at 02:01, Po Lu wrote: > Robert Pluim writes: > > > Making people who wish to retain long-standing behaviour set a > > variable or edit a config file for something as fundamental as loading > > and saving customizations is not something I would want, ever. > > Agreed, and I also think that long-standing behaviour should never > change as well, even for sites that have Emacs freshly installed. > > Thanks. > -- Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler