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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319738 Archived-At: --00000000000085d7410619a971ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Philip, On Thu, 30 May 2024 at 08:31, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > > > But just keep in mind that there are situations, where the platform must > > deploy > > Emacs on, might not be as relaxed WRT disk space... And it's not about a > > specific > > package, it's about a trickle of packages becoming a flood... > > I can imagine that a distribution like Debian can choose to distribute > two package. The regular Emacs, that would bundle the selected ELPA > packages and "emacs-minimal" that wouldn't (and perhaps even remove some > more, like games or some stuff like that). > ... > -- > Philip Kaludercic on peregrine > And maybe, one should start thinking into including this option in the emacs Makefile. Something like a make install-mininal For those who self-compile ;-) Best, /PA -- Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler Headaches with a Juju log: unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet --00000000000085d7410619a971ee Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Philip,

On Thu, 30 May 2024 at 08:31, Philip Kalude= rcic <philipk@posteo.net> w= rote:
Pedro Andr= es Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com> writes:

> But just keep in mind that there are situations, where the platfor= m must
> deploy
> Emacs on, might not be as relaxed WRT disk space... And it's not a= bout a
> specific
> package, it's about a trickle of packages becoming a flood...

I can imagine that a distribution like Debian can choose to distribute
two package.=C2=A0 The regular Emacs, that would bundle the selected ELPA packages and "emacs-minimal" that wouldn't (and perhaps even = remove some
more, like games or some stuff like that).
...
--
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Philip Kaludercic on peregrine
And maybe, one should start thinking into including this= option in the emacs Makefile. Something
like a=C2=A0

make install-mininal

For those who self-co= mpile ;-)

Best, /PA

--
Fra= gen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um ges= tellt zu werden
Georg Kreisler

Headaches = with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.unit= er.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet=

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