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From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Arguing for a nilp function and where to put it
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2023 09:09:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO48Bk9STiFyZdyAhjvendyJm9mJboxbJQ5-EU0H8PpkoBEcyw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831ql416bp.fsf@gnu.org>

Hi Eli,

it might be that sometimes I'd like a bit more of logic...

When you want to check if a variable is an integer, you use integerp,
when you want to check if a variable is a string, you use stringp, etc.
so I was expecting, in pure logic and in the frenzy of real life, that
when you want to check if a variable is nil, you use nilp

So, null is an outlier... no problem, can live with that... intuition
failed me <blush>RTFM</blush>...
Anyway, thx
/PA

On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 at 08:09, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2023 07:37:44 +0200
> >
> > Use case for a nilp function:
> >
> > I have a buffer-local variable with a default value, and I want to
> > allow to (silently) set it to nil (and only to nil) from
> > .dir-locals.el or Local Variables.
> >
> > Currently I have
> >
> > (defun nilp(v) (unless v t))
> >
> > and I use it with
> >
> > (put '<variable> 'safe-local-variable #'nilp)
> >
> > which is much cleaner than
> >
> > (put '<variable> 'safe-local-variable (lambda (p) (unless p t)))
> >
> > every time I need it. I think other people may benefit from having
> > this simple function as part of Emacs and I'm not sure whether the
> > elisp form would be better than something more lower level like
> > integerp and in which file it would reside best.
>
> Why cannot you use the existing function 'null'?
>
> If 'null' doesn't fit the bill, please explain why.



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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-01  7:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-01  5:37 Arguing for a nilp function and where to put it Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-04-01  6:01 ` tomas
2023-04-01  6:07 ` Michael Albinus
2023-04-01  6:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01  7:09   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez [this message]
2023-04-02 21:28     ` Roland Winkler
2023-04-03  3:02     ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-03  3:34       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-04-03 12:46         ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-03 18:48         ` Roland Winkler
2023-04-03 23:44           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-04-04  2:56           ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-05  7:24             ` Emanuel Berg

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