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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304387 Archived-At: On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 04:45:21 -0800, Ongaro wrote > I don't understand this argument. If you're an Emacs user who uses > tree-sitter the probability is high that you're also a developer so you > need development tools like a compiler anyway. Especially in a > "professional" programming environment. A sys-admin banning that would > be an admin banning you from work. Two things to bring another perspective: 1.- the probability is high, but what do we do with the (1-p)... shy them away? ;-) 2.- with the current landscape, even professional developers can't sometimes do what they need. There is this balance between productivity and security, which I do understand. I've already seen a couple of frighting attacks... Best, /PA -- Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler Headaches with a Juju log: unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet