Eli writes: > What message? I asked to show these messages before, and I didn't see > your answer to that question. We don't intend to have Emacs show any > such messages just because you don't have tree-sitter installed. Just try M-x c-ts-mode and you'l get this message *four* times (side question, isn't one enough?) ⛔ Warning (treesit): Cannot activate tree-sitter, because tree-sitter library is not compiled with Emacs Another question: If I can't use the command, wouldn't it be better if I had no access to it? Best, /PA PS: BTW, at this point, removing the 'Warning (treesit)' would leave a coherent message WRT the no entry sign, but that's another thread ;-) On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 at 12:48, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 12:30:26 +0100 > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > Eli writes: > > > Why would it confuse? You also have there stuff like w32-win.el.gz, > > > which is used only on MS-Windows, and other files that are not > > > necessarily for your configuration. This is not a problem, and > > > shouldn't be one. > > > > I don't know, maybe for me there is a difference between the OS specific > stuff, tree-sitter and other stuff in > > Emacs: > > It is nothing new in Emacs: we provide many packages, some of which > are specific to platforms other than yours, some others need optional > libraries that you don't necessarily have, etc. > > > tree-sitter modes 'compete' with 'regular' modes and if I don't have > tree-sitter activated at compile time, it > > can be misleading to see those files there > > I disagree it should mislead anyone, and let's leave it at that. > > > and 'sub-optimal' (to say the least) to get a message that you > > can't use them. > > What message? I asked to show these messages before, and I didn't see > your answer to that question. We don't intend to have Emacs show any > such messages just because you don't have tree-sitter installed. > > > OS related stuff is different in the sense that, well, if I'm on a Linux > system and try to use (you say the > > OS)-specific features, it is natural that I get a 'wake-up' message > there and stop trying to do things that make > > no sense. > > Same thing if you use a Lisp package which requires an optional > library you don't have installed or if you use Emacs which wasn't > built with support for that library. Examples: GnuTLS, HarfBuzz, > librsvg, sqlite3, etc. > > > As for the rest, having dormant features that _work_ (or are WIP with a > level of maturity enough to be in > > master) and only wait for me to test them and activate them if they help > me in my day-to-day interactions > > with Emacs, of course, put 10^n n->infinity of those in Emacs, no > problem. > > > > In that sense, if there was a way to disregard *-ts-*.el files in > ELC/ELN compilation and installation when I > > compile Emacs _without_ tree-sitter support, the whole picture would be > (once again, IMvHO) much more > > coherent. > > We don't disregard any Lisp files. When Emacs builds, it compiles all > the files in the source tree. A release tarball comes with *.elc > files already compiled, and *.eln files will only be produced if you > actually load the corresponding *.el package. So I see no problem > here. > -- Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden, Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden Georg Kreisler Headaches with a Juju log: unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet