On Sun, 7 Apr 2024 at 13:49, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 12:57:31 +0200
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > Is there any conceptual difference between providing flyspell/ispell-mode and providing
> > auto-complete suggestions in text mode?
>
> Yes, there is: auto-complete suggestions happen _before_ you type,
> whereas Flyspell happens _after_ you type.
>
> But is that enough to make the activation/deactivation process so different?
> I mean. currently, if you want flyspell-mode for a specific mode, you
> add
> ```
> (flyspell-mode 1)
> ```
> to the hook function with the rest of the customisations for that mode.
> Now, for auto-complete it goes the other way round... you need to add code
> to disable it and that is confusing (al4m).

Sorry, I don't see the big difference. Flyspell-mode is off by
default, whereas completion hints are on by default, that's all.

I feel different... The way of turning auto-complete based on ispell off is less obvious

reading/writing the code that turns flyspell on.

> I missed it... (bad memories from the time when it took place) but yes, I'd like to be convinced why this feature
> needs to be activated by default.

Because we considered it to be very useful.

Yes, but there are situations where this feature may discourage people from using Emacs... because it

distracts from the task you are performing, because it produces much more additional output that needs

to be treated by the interface, etc. Once again, all these are distractions. In the best case they are a nuisance,

but depending on specific conditions they may lead to a person failing to produce a document or even

worse.

Best, /PA

PS: Anecdote: I've given it a try it for my work in several languages, and the hit rate was really low. Most of the

time it was just for fun that I looked at the suggestions and I had some candidates that are off-limits in any

well-mannered conversation ;-)

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